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To: Kurt Evans

If Guiliani wins the nomination and y’all don’t support him or vote third party you might as well be voting for Hillary.

And yes she is much, much worse. Guiliani will pick conservative judges — given that the next president has at least two supreme court picks — that is huge.


7 posted on 11/25/2007 9:35:43 PM PST by tdewey10 (Can we please take out iran's nuclear capability before they start using it?)
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To: tdewey10

No, he won’t.


8 posted on 11/25/2007 9:36:38 PM PST by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: tdewey10

“Guiliani will pick conservative judges”

Not based on his past record.


12 posted on 11/25/2007 9:39:09 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: tdewey10
If Guiliani wins the nomination and y’all don’t support him or vote third party you might as well be voting for Hillary.

If we vote for Rudy, we vote for the destruction immediately of the conservative movement in the GOP and long-term destruction of the GOP itself.

Rudy is just a little to the right of Hillary and this has been explained over and over and over on FreeRepublic.

Conservatives are tired of having to choose between the lessor of two evils.

Where Rudy and Hillary are concerned, there is not much differentiation between the levels of evil.
13 posted on 11/25/2007 9:39:17 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: tdewey10
... Guiliani will pick conservative judges ...

Not according to Rudy.

According to Rudy, Ruth Bader Ginsburg has the same positive characteristics as Alito and Robert.

Also, according to Rudy, he can see Roe vs. Wade being upheld by his version of a strict constructionist.

In other words it all depends on your definition of "strict constructionist".

With respect to Rudy's definition, he apparently believes that someone can be a strict constructionish and believe Roe vs. Wade is good law.

Another Rudy BIG LIE exposed!
14 posted on 11/25/2007 9:43:06 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: tdewey10

“If Guiliani wins the nomination and y’all don’t support him or vote third party you might as well be voting for Hillary.”

If you support Rudy, YOU might as well be supporting Hillary...


15 posted on 11/25/2007 9:45:57 PM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: tdewey10

“Guiliani will pick conservative judges — given that the next president has at least two supreme court picks — that is huge.”

You should have watched the video before you commented. Giuliani says the “strict constructionists” he’d appoint might support Roe v. Wade. That’s one of the main points I was trying to make in the Hannity forums before they banned me. Sean has been a borderline liar about this.

From Larry King Live:

KING: Yet you’ll say you’ll appoint judges who are strict constructionists. If that’s the case, they’re going to vote to overturn “Roe v. Wade,” which you don’t want.

GIULIANI: I don’t know that. You don’t know that.

KING: Well, what is strict constructionist?

GIULIANI: Well, OK, there are a lot of ways to explain that. I mean (UNINTELLIGIBLE)... KING: Do you still favor “”Roe v. Wade?””

GIULIANI: I am pro-choice, yes. But I — I’m also, as you know — always have been — against abortion, hate abortion, don’t like it, wouldn’t personally advise anyone to have an abortion and — but I believe a woman has a right to choose.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0702/14/lkl.01.html


22 posted on 11/25/2007 10:00:38 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: tdewey10
There will be no new conservative SCOTUS justices in the next president’s term, because Harry Reid and co. will never allow a confirmation vote. Bet on it. Then Rudy would have a perfect excuse to withdraw the nomination, and appoint a "moderate", just like he appointed in NY. "I kept my promise, but the Democrats wouldn't confirm him. The Supreme Court is too important to leave a seat vacant."
26 posted on 11/25/2007 10:06:07 PM PST by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: tdewey10

Leopards don’t change their spots.

Guiliani will not nominate conservative, pro-life judges. That is the biggest lie of the campaign....thus far.


28 posted on 11/25/2007 10:12:24 PM PST by DivaDelMar
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To: tdewey10

Our Govenator Swartzebegger has appointed more democrat judges than Republican judges...


40 posted on 11/25/2007 10:25:47 PM PST by tubebender (The probability of being watched is directly proportional to the stupidity of your act.)
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To: tdewey10
If Guiliani wins the nomination and y’all don’t support him or vote third party you might as well be voting for Hillary.

Bull crap. If Giuliani is the best the Republicans can do, then they can do without me. If it comes down to Hillary or Rudy, then my guns are history. The lesser of two evils is still evil. If Rudy is the nominee, then the Republican Party needs to do some serious soul searching. In the meantime, I'll be searching for someone else to vote for.

51 posted on 11/25/2007 10:36:48 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: tdewey10
Guiliani will pick conservative judges

Do you still believe in the tooth fairy, too?

55 posted on 11/25/2007 10:44:30 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: tdewey10

I agree. Hillary is much worse. Hell, any of the current dems are much worse.

I think Guiliani will choose conservative SC judges and I think he’d be good on WOT. He’d suck on immigration and border control, imo. I hate his stand on abortion and gay rights.

At this point, I’ll vote repub no matter what. I’m still waiting to see what happens, who wins the repub primary. But I won’t vote 3rd party at this point.

I like to see/read what people are saying, etc. I’d much rather have a fiscal and social conservative with strong immigration and border control ideas and implementation plan but I don’t see that yet.

The repub party is losing me. Half the time I can’t tell a dem from a repub. Sometimes, our current govt. sucks. I’m all for a strong 3rd party but I don’t see it happening this election. It will take years to build but maybe in 2012, it will be possible.

I won’t throw my vote away, by voting 3rd or whatever party this time. I’d rather have anyone but a dem, esp. Hillary, as President next year.


60 posted on 11/25/2007 10:53:55 PM PST by Twink
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To: tdewey10

What makes you think Rudy will pick conservative Judges, much less strict constructionist judges. This is the guy who said that he believes the right to abortion is a constitutional right and that he could “...see a strict constructionist judge upholding Roe v. Wade”

Clearly, Rudy doesn’t have a clue as to what strict constructionist means, but at the end of the day, do you believe that Rudy would donate all that money to NARL over a period of years and then appoint a judge that will rule against NARL.

And I’m sick of that a vote for anybody but Rudy in the general election is a vote for Clinton. With Clinton in office, at least we can pursue a conservative amendment without hesitation, whereas with Rudy, we will spend 4 years embracing a liberal agenda on immigration, gay marriage, gun control etc., The conservative movement may be stronger after 4 years of opposing Hillary, but it may never recover after 4 years of supporting Rudy.


97 posted on 11/26/2007 2:31:33 AM PST by NavVet (O)
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To: tdewey10
Guiliani will pick conservative judges

And what guarantee has he made to make you believe that, especially seeing that he is liberal on most everything?

103 posted on 11/26/2007 4:51:54 AM PST by A2J (Love Jesus...hate "church.")
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To: tdewey10
If Guiliani wins the nomination and y’all don’t support him or vote third party you might as well be voting for Hillary.

Since they are EXACTLY THE SAME, it won't matter...


107 posted on 11/26/2007 5:07:50 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: tdewey10
If Giuliani wins the nomination then it is ALL HILLARY! The folks who vote for Giuliani will return a farther left Congress than we now have and Giuliani will not be able to work with Congress at all except on Congress's terms which he is mostly in sympathy with anyway. I do not think he will win the nomination. If the SoCons are inclined now to vote for him if he is the nominee they will be repelled by the scandal-a-day that the entire MSM will do until the election. He has an overabundance of real material in his past that is simply anathema to Christians and other social conservatives.By next November millions of them will not be able to bring themselves to go to the polls at all and the Democrats will sweep Congressional and state offices.

Congress will pass the Fairness Doctrine as a Congressional Act

Unless the USSC issues a sweeping ruling affirming traditional and plain understanding of the 2nd Amd, the Congress will pass lots of legislation that will ultimately amount to confiscation.

Giuliani cannot get conservative judges through the congress he will face and his 2nd and 3rd choices will go through and will be mostly picked by the Democrats in Congress for him to nominate. He will pick(2nd or 3rd) nonentities for USSC who will warp left within a year of being seated.

He will not be worth much in the War because he will be at the direction of a left Congress.

Giuliani as the Republican nominee is the only sure thing for another Clinton presidency. If nominated he will not be elected because he will drive away his SoCon votes and those stay-at-home voters will leave the field to the Democrats up and down the ticket. Rudynauts will gnash their teeth and "blame" the SoCons for being hardheaded or stupid and will feel better about the loss because of the perceived orneriness of Christians but it is how things will work out. It is a given. They rail against something that has almost the stature of a natural law.

109 posted on 11/26/2007 5:25:25 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: tdewey10
If Guiliani wins the nomination and y’all don’t support him or vote third party you might as well be voting for Hillary.

Oh, well.

And yes she is much, much worse.

I see little difference.

Guiliani will pick conservative judges

Hogwash.

115 posted on 11/26/2007 10:30:20 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: tdewey10

Sure. Rudy nominated LOTS of conservative judges when he was Mayor of NYC. /sarc


116 posted on 11/26/2007 10:31:30 AM PST by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: tdewey10

That is weak, very weak. A liberal dirtbag is a liberal dirtbag. Why will he appoint conservative judges? Because he said so on the campaign trail? Abortion, 2nd mmendment ...he’s done more tapdancing than a “Lawrence Welk” traveling show. Did he have a come to Jesus moment only on Judges. What other constitutional things has he had a come to Jesus moment with.

Leadership I don’t doubt. That is where he shines above Hillary. Oter than that there is not much difference. Why not Bloomber. He has an “R” behind his name as well ... and was a democrat before just like Rudy.

Sorry ...Ohio is a state full of RINO dirtbags. We threw one senator put and another one should have been and will be. Nothing more worthless than a crybaby like Voinabitch that has his parts rubbed raw straddling a fence. I detest people lke that. The Senate is full of them .... one by one they are disappearing ...goodby Frist ...Good bye Lott. Don’t let the door hitcha ... where the good lord splitcha.


129 posted on 11/27/2007 3:11:33 AM PST by HiramQuick
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