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Forecast: U.S. dollar could plunge 90 pct (ZOT!!! Retread Trolls Hardest Hit)
UPI ^ | 11/19/07 | ??

Posted on 11/25/2007 1:48:04 PM PST by jrsmc

RHINEBECK, N.Y., Nov. 19 (UPI) -- A financial crisis will likely send the U.S. dollar into a free fall of as much as 90 percent and gold soaring to $2,000 an ounce, a trends researcher said.

"We are going to see economic times the likes of which no living person has seen," Trends Research Institute Director Gerald Celente said, forecasting a "Panic of 2008."

Forecast: U.S. dollar could plunge 90 pct

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crash; dollar; doomage; thedollarisdoomed; troll; wearedoomed; zot; zuluoscartango
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To: CitizenUSA
Yes, but they always compare the lows to the highs in order to claim massive profits.

Exactly! The same guys who brag they bought at $260 in 2001 won't tell us that they held $700 gold since 1980.

101 posted on 11/25/2007 3:18:59 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: sbMKE
If the feds can’t pay off their foreign debt, will China foreclose on California? =============== Wouldn't be any worse than the legislature we have.
102 posted on 11/25/2007 3:21:16 PM PST by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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To: Bailee
What happens if the banks have no buyers. Anyone remember The farm crisis in early early eighties banks finally quit forclosing on bankrupt farms there were NO buyers in south Georgia. It was touch and go with our farm. Several neighboring families lost there entire farm.

While not many people are in the market for a farm, everybody needs to buy or rent a house. They will buy if it is priced at a fair price they can afford.

This mess was created as greedy lenders made very risky loans to unqualified buyers to create high yield debt to sell to gullible investors.

In the end, that left unqualified buyers with loans they could never repay, it left housing prices artificially elevated by buyers with too much easily borrowed money, it left young home buyers priced out of the housing markets, it left the investors holding pieces of paper that had "SUCKER" stamped on them and it left the greedy loan brokers with lots of money in their pockets.

What will have to happen is that whoever ends up with ownership of the foreclosed property will have to swallow their financial losses and price the property at a fair market price that a family can afford with conventional financing without resorting to these idiotic loans that created this mess in the first place.

Then, the houses will sell, a new fair market value will be established and young buyers will once again be able to own a house without mortgaging their souls away.

103 posted on 11/25/2007 3:21:33 PM PST by Polybius
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To: jrsmc; Hydroshock

I suppose a huge decline is possible if we lose our position as the global currency of choice for settlements. I remember reading that once the British Pound Sterling was replaced by the US Dollar in that role it lost 80% of its value. If I can find the article with that statistic I will post a link.

LBT
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104 posted on 11/25/2007 3:24:04 PM PST by LiberalBassTurds (Peace is the short interlude between wars.)
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To: AlexW
..no PC crap here. Oh, they even have nativity scenes in the center of old town. Imagine that..."

Wow! I'm intrigued, they haven't outlawed the Easter Bunny?! Can one smoke in a pub, though?
105 posted on 11/25/2007 3:25:26 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: LiberalBassTurds

80% of what?


106 posted on 11/25/2007 3:26:46 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
That only has a little SPAM in it...

But I don't like Spam.

107 posted on 11/25/2007 3:27:43 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: jrsmc
U.S. dollar could plunge 90 pct

ROFLOL!!! How absurd and idiotic!!!! Any serious currency trader who espoused this KOOK ROT would hopefully get fired on the spot.

108 posted on 11/25/2007 3:29:31 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: jrsmc
"...which no living person has seen"

LOL! LOL! LOL! How can anyone right something like that with a straight face? Gee, look at North Korea and countless other countries out there. We'd have have to start eating our neighbors to exceed the economic "times" those people live under NOW.
109 posted on 11/25/2007 3:34:11 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

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110 posted on 11/25/2007 3:35:39 PM PST by petercooper ("Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime." - Nicole Gelinas - 02-10-04)
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To: CitizenUSA

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111 posted on 11/25/2007 3:37:14 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: CitizenUSA
Even if China links its currency to the dollar, how can it avoid raising prices if the cost of its raw materials, like oil, keeps going up?

It can't, but NO ONE can. It's a world commodity. The difference is our suppliers - like China - aren't inflating prices simply because their currency increased. Any inflation we're seeing is from commodity prices increasing, not just financial markets jiggering about.

In the EU, it's the opposite - they can get the commodities for "less" than we pay (less of an increase), but they cannot pass those savings along since most of the cost of what they export is from labor and capital costs, no commodity items.

That difference is what's killing the EU, and why a weak dollar versus the Euro doesn't make much of a difference for the US and its trade allies.

112 posted on 11/25/2007 3:38:01 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Tagline: Kinda like a chorus line but without the legs)
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To: Freedom4US

“Can one smoke in a pub, though?”

Of course, but I am not a smoker.


113 posted on 11/25/2007 3:39:06 PM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: Neidermeyer

Neidermeyer wrote: “Spaaam, Spaaam, Spaaam, Spaaaaaam!”

Thank you. I’m glad someone else sees the inherent value of SPAM. You, my FRiend, will surely survive the upcoming economic disaster.


114 posted on 11/25/2007 3:41:16 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: FormerACLUmember

I love that site. The related (I believe) che-mart.com is a winner, too.


115 posted on 11/25/2007 3:42:58 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: crghill
"...mortgages are secured by hard assets"

Remember the problem in the S&L crisis? Valuation. An asset to be converted to cash is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it and not what you say or think it's worth.

116 posted on 11/25/2007 3:43:16 PM PST by DaGman
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

PugetSoundSoldier wrote: “In the EU, it’s the opposite - they can get the commodities for “less” than we pay (less of an increase), but they cannot pass those savings along since most of the cost of what they export is from labor and capital costs, no commodity items.”

Ah, that makes sense. The EU pays less for oil since it’s priced in dollars, but they’re less competitive because it costs them more to produce something with the oil? Is that part of the reason why their prices are rising but not as fast as the exchange rate?


117 posted on 11/25/2007 3:48:37 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: Polybius; crghill; Petronski; Toddsterpatriot
True. The lenders may have lent out $400,000 for that $200,000 house but, after foreclosure, the lender still has that $200,000 house

And those who lend money on gold at $1000 an ounce presuming it will go to $2000, will still have $500 an ounce worth of gold after foreclosure.

118 posted on 11/25/2007 3:50:37 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: jrsmc
In tommorow's Barrons Jonathan R. Laing has an article titled A Comeback for the Greenback.

He acknowledges the following: dollar fall described in apocalyptic terms, US GDP is slowing, Subprime problems and so forth. He then goes on to quote GaveKal, an international research firm, believes the following:

FWIW the above points bear serious consideration. I note tonight on the Forex the Yen is weakening while the Euro and Pound are strengthening.

119 posted on 11/25/2007 3:59:10 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: jrsmc

ping


120 posted on 11/25/2007 3:59:42 PM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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