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To: fallingwater

I don’t care for Romney. His Mormonism is the LAST reason for a Christian to withhold support for the man. Mormons are perhaps not Christians exactly in the way most of us think of Christianity but LDS is the most consistent and thorough repository of Christian values in America.


79 posted on 11/26/2007 6:00:37 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: arthurus; fallingwater
LDS is the most consistent and thorough repository of Christian values in America.[Art]

"Christian values..." You mean like men becoming gods? You mean like the belief that thousands of mortals can simultaneously be "true" gods? (Polytheism)

[Maybe you need to dust the cobwebs off of your Bible this Christmas season]

"...consistent...repository.

Consistency...consistency...Hmm...Oh, I think you mean like:

Example 1: The Book of Mormon was anti-polygamy; but then its original prophet WAS a polygamist (along with many to follow); but then the LDS church cracked down on polygamy; but then polygamy is still supposedly being practiced forever in the celestial kingdom (IOW, "right now"--as much as "eternity" can be "now").

Example 2: LDS leaders said black skin was a "curse" and prevented blacks from the priesthood. Then they changed their mind in 1978.

Example 3: LDS were largely anti-slavery in history. But then you get curious pro-slave owner "Scriptural" passages like Doctrine & Covenants 134:12.

Example 4: Except for the doctrine of grace and some others, just about all of the major distinctions between LDS & the historic Christian faith don't even come from the Book of Mormon. What that means is that LDS theology itself "evolved" (one God in BoM; multiple gods later...no priesthood in BoM; priesthood later; no created God in BoM; LDS god a created God later; no 3 degrees of heaven in BoM; 3 degrees later; no baptism for dead or geneology works or temple works in BoM; all of that later...I could on and on)

Example 5: LDS position on abortion. If you read the LDS position on abortion (particularly the one I've seen written for LDS bishops), it initially comes across as "pro-life." But as you read it carefully, you realize that the holes in this cheese makes you ask, "Where's the cheese?" I mean there's an exception for rape. An exception for generic "health." (And guess who gets to define "health"?--that's right, the abortionist). An exception for if you pray to God about it and then you make God an accessory to murder by saying, "He answered 'Yes'." An exception for life of the mother...

"...through...repository..." Well, they're "thorough" in some ways, alright. In a world that already features ancestor worship & ancestor veneration, I don't think you can feature a religion that focuses more on the dead than the living than the LDS church...(and they do it so thoroughly). Death records. Genealogies. Temple rituals. All for the dead.

Jesus was critical of those who overly focused on the dead: "He said to another man, 'Follow me.' But the man replied, 'Lord, first let me go and bury my father.' Jesus said to him, 'Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God.'" (Luke 9:59-60)

The apostle Paul even more pointedly told Timothy: ...so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies... (1 Timothy 1:3-4)

82 posted on 11/26/2007 8:28:43 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: arthurus

What, may I ask is your definition of “Christian values?”

Would humility and lack of pride be one of the main Christian values? I’m asking because the LDS belief that one can actually “earn” their exaltation instead of relying upon the atonement of Christ, leads to a warping of the humble, contrite attitude of a true Christian, and leads to examples of pride and excessive self-worth. We tend to see this character in Mitt Romney, future God, for example.


84 posted on 11/26/2007 8:44:39 AM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: arthurus
... but LDS is the most consistent and thorough repository of Christian values in America.

 
 

Luke 18:9-14
 
   9.  To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable:
 10.  "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
 11.  The Pharisee stood up and prayed about  himself: `God, I thank you that I am not like other men--robbers, evildoers, adulterers--or even like this tax collector.
 12.  I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'
 13.  "But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, `God, have mercy on me, a sinner.'
 14.  "I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."


112 posted on 11/26/2007 10:32:06 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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