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States Assess Breakthrough On Stem Cells
Washington Post ^ | Thursday, November 22, 2007 | Rick Weiss

Posted on 11/24/2007 8:50:25 PM PST by Vince Ferrer

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To: SierraWasp; FairOpinion

Amazingly, Prop 71 was so bad that even FairOpinion opposed it! I think it was a first. ;-)


21 posted on 11/24/2007 11:05:52 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
>> Amazingly, Prop 71 was so bad that even FairOpinion opposed it! I think it was a first. ;-) <<

No way! FO actually opposed something that was endorsed by his-holiness-the-great-GOP-God-like-sultan-of-all-knowledge Arnold Schwazenegger? Get outta here!

FO must have had a nasty bump on the head that day to oppose Arnold's "brillant" leadership for California.

22 posted on 11/24/2007 11:14:31 PM PST by BillyBoy (Fred Thompson isn't the second coming of Reagan, he's the second coming of Stephen A. Douglas!)
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To: BillyBoy

I know—it’s hard to believe, ain’t it? At least she *started out* opposing it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1249395/posts?page=26#26

A few posts later on the thread, she says Arnie is just naive.
Maybe before the election she changed her position entirely (I don’t remember.)


23 posted on 11/24/2007 11:29:53 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks for that explanation in layman’s terms. Should it also include that the “new and improved” technique results in cells that are not rejected by the body — whereas embryonic stem cells, or donor cells (from someone other than the intended recipient/patient) could have rejection problems? Again, this is just my layman’s understanding that this development is better on several counts, not just ethically but medically as well.


24 posted on 11/24/2007 11:42:11 PM PST by bajabaja
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To: Arthur McGowan


25 posted on 11/25/2007 2:33:35 AM PST by Iron Munro ( (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.))
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To: Vince Ferrer

These murderers will ALWAYS demand the “right” to embryonic stem cells. It must be continued to keep their efforts going to devalue life in all things—abortion, euthanasia, cloning, etc.


26 posted on 11/25/2007 3:36:58 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: SatinDoll
. . . They can choose not to spend a dime.

Scientists and companies that are to benefit from this government money will sue to get the money promised them, regardless of whether there exists better technology or if it is even worth spending money on.

27 posted on 11/25/2007 4:56:43 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: Vince Ferrer

If you haven’t already, I think it is reasonable to thank God for this breakthrough. The blessing of saving the pre-born and the blessing of the potential to do so much good for those of us out of the womb.

(And thank the researchers and those who funded them, of course.)


28 posted on 11/25/2007 5:09:41 AM PST by TN4Liberty (A liberal is someone who believes Scooter Libby should be in jail and Bill Clinton should not.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
The state of NJ had a question on the ballot to fund embryonic stem cell research. We voted it down overwelmingly.

Less than a week later the Democratic Congress of NJ with the help of Corzine tried to put a bill through that would fund the building of one of their research centers.

I hope this will stop the whole nonsense in its tracks, but I fear some folks are already so well entrenched as far as money is concerned that they are not going to let this died the ugly death it deserves.

29 posted on 11/25/2007 5:15:07 AM PST by mware
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To: mware

I always follow the money. Take any issue, no matter how controversial or good sounding, can always be traced back to its beginning by following the money.

I was an engineer for a company that specialized in the creation of technological answers to environmental problems. What we hadn’t figured out at the time is that it was an issue and not a problem. Even though we came up with working and proven processes, we were unmercilessly attacked by the environmentalists we strived to help.

We subsequently realized the only thing we were helping them with was lighteneing their wallets since they no longer had an “issue” as a means to raise money that went to “raise awareness” of their personal bank accounts. It operates the same way many charities do by only giving a small portion of the donations to the issue they represent while most goes to “administrative costs” and “processing fees”.

We also learned a sizable monetary support mechanism for these groups were none only than the corporations or businesses who would have lost a revenue stream should the “issue” have been resolved by one of our projects.


30 posted on 11/25/2007 5:35:44 AM PST by mazda77
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To: mazda77

This also applies to government agencies.


31 posted on 11/25/2007 5:37:42 AM PST by mazda77
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To: Vince Ferrer

Schedenfreud


32 posted on 11/25/2007 10:08:37 AM PST by UB355
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To: HardStarboard

Ah - a smart man connects the odts - first one on the board. I had a thought a couple hours ago that some smart REPUBLICAN(oximoron?) would start a series of commericals about stem cells and global warming and say something like, “We believe in the power of creative people and that good intentions do not mean good science. Look at stems cells developed from skin tissue - most people did not think it was possible, they thought you had to kill embroyos. They think you have to kill business, cars and families or else we will destory the planet. I say they are just as wrong about the planet as about stem cells.!!”


33 posted on 11/25/2007 11:18:16 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: sportutegrl

Fine. Let them sue. But if there is no destination then the freeway doesn’t get built.


34 posted on 11/25/2007 7:55:24 PM PST by SatinDoll
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