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To: Lovebloggers

well, I think Paul is right. The only way to destroy the greatest nation on earth is to provoke us to destory ourselves. These thugs and criminals are incapable of doing it themselves.

And our foreign policy is not helping, supporting the Saudi criminals and Egyptian tyrants, plus, look at what is happening in Pakistan, 10 billion wasted to spread the military socialism and the money is spent against India and we expect terrorism to decrease? If I was a Pakistani citizen I would be upset over the support of the United States, financially and politically, to the criminal Musharaf who has thrown thousands of citizens and journalists and opposition leaders in jail and runs a socialistic military junta which is invested in most sectors of the economy with government imposed monopolies.

So, I think Paul is not so far off in his comments, in fact, I think he is correct.


18 posted on 11/24/2007 5:59:09 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks
The only way to destroy the greatest nation on earth is to provoke us to destory ourselves. These thugs and criminals are incapable of doing it themselves.

Even with the help of Fifth Columnists like Ron?

25 posted on 11/24/2007 6:04:23 PM PST by Mojave
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To: traviskicks

You think the enemy’s only goal is to destroy the greatest nation on earth?

You think it isn’t satisfying enough to them for a city to smoke or a playground to run red or a carload of subway commuters to panic and die?

You are one naive fool.


47 posted on 11/24/2007 6:40:35 PM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal troika: romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: traviskicks
"These thugs and criminals are incapable of doing it themselves."

Terrorists and mass murderers they are, not thugs and criminals. Only a fool would think otherwise. These "thugs and criminals" are incapable of doing it? Yeah, they were incapable of killing 3000 innocent civilians on 9/11, shutting down our entire airplane transportation nationwide and causing about 2 plus trillion dollars damage to our economy. Those thugs and criminals sure are incapable.
56 posted on 11/24/2007 6:54:20 PM PST by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: traviskicks
And our foreign policy is not helping, supporting the Saudi criminals and Egyptian tyrants, plus, look at what is happening in Pakistan

Whatever you say, President Carter. That philosophy of seeking purity in our allies in the face of Islamic nutcases at the gates really worked out well in Iran, didn't it. Good thing we got rid of that nasty, corrupt Shaw.

What will it take for you to understand that the enemies of Islamists are, by definition, our friends? No matter how corrupt you claim them to be (See Shaw of Iran), they can in no way be as bad as the lunatics seeking to overthrow them.

59 posted on 11/24/2007 7:02:34 PM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: traviskicks
"Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07
70 posted on 11/24/2007 9:16:43 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: traviskicks
Laughable. They are not criminals and thugs per se, they are religious fanatics in the service of Islam. No amount of change to our foreign policy will change their goals as it is rooted in their religion. Why people like yourself cannot see this I have no idea other than your ignorance of Islam.
149 posted on 11/25/2007 11:53:15 AM PST by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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To: traviskicks
The only way to destroy the greatest nation on earth is to provoke us to destory ourselves. These thugs and criminals are incapable of doing it themselves.

What you're missing is that there's a lot of damage to be done between "nothing" and "destroying the country" and some of us have no desire or inclination to tolerate the middle ground.

I don't fear terrorists "destroying the country" per se. What I fear - or rather, want to avoid - is terrorism being continually and neverendingly wielded as a tactic against our country - to weaken us, to undermine our will, to extort us into folding up. When terrorism is used by states against us it's usually not to "destroy" us but rather to achieve some geopolitical aim of said state.

The stupidest thing we could do in the face of states which do this would be to telegraph to them (1) that we will indeed capitulate to demands communicated via terrorism and that (2) we will refuse, a priori, to associate terrorism with states. This is the suicidal, idiotic mindset which makes terrorism (deniable, proxy asymmetric warfare) a profitable tactic in the first place. And of course, both (1) and (2) are prominent features of Ron Paul's mindset.

If I was a Pakistani citizen I would be upset over the support of the United States, financially and politically, to the criminal Musharaf who has thrown thousands of citizens and journalists and opposition leaders in jail and runs a socialistic military junta which is invested in most sectors of the economy with government imposed monopolies.

Even if the U.S. were not doing this, and you were a Pakistani citizen, you would probably hate the U.S. for other reasons. For example, there would be some other autocrat in place - and the U.S. would either support him (evil U.S.!) or not support him (evil U.S.!) It really doesn't take much.

196 posted on 11/25/2007 5:05:35 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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