Posted on 11/23/2007 3:43:25 AM PST by backhoe
Edited on 11/23/2007 1:22:32 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
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****UPDATE****
More information has come up, here:
Court Papers from Richard Warman [ 1, 2, 3 ] |
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Dec 4, 2002 | At least since December 2002, Warman was monitoring the Freedomsite. MS KULASZKA: So it was at least by December 4 of 2002? [That you were monitoring the Freedomsite] MR. WARMAN: That I was aware of the Freedomsite, sure, yeah, easily. (Lemire Transcripts, Vol 4, Page 744) |
May 9, 2003 | CHRT tribunal rules on Warman v. Kyburz case. Lawyer Pam MacEachern represents the CHRC |
July 16, 2003 | Debate rages in Canada over legalization of Same-Sex Marriage. Parliament of Canada asks the Supreme Court of Canada for a decision. Supreme Court case: 29866 In the Matter of a Reference by the Governor in Council concerning the Proposal for an Act respecting certain aspects of legal capacity for marriage for civil purposes, as set out in Order in Council P.C. 2003-1055, dated July 16, 2003 |
Aug 8, 2003 | Senator Anne Cools is quoted on her opposition to Same-Sex Marriage. (Toronto Star; August 8, 2003) |
Sept 4, 2003 | Canadian Alliance leader Stephen Harper announces that his party will introduce a motion that calls on Parliament to take all necessary steps to deny same-sex couples access to civil marriage. (EGALE sends out a press release on Sept 5, 2003 denouncing Harper's plan) |
Sept 5, 2003 | Richard Warman, using the alias 90sAreOver, posts the following on the Freedomsite Message board (Canadian Heritage Alliance forum) Uses IP Address: 66.185.84.204 Not only is Canadian Senator Anne Cools is a Negro, she is also an immigrant! And she is also one helluva preachy c*nt. She does NOT belong in my Canada. My Anglo-Germanic people were here before there was a Canada and her kind have jumped in, polluted our race, and forced their bullshit down our throats. Time to go back to when the women nigger imports knew their place And that place was NOT in public! |
Sept 11, 2003 | The first interveners in the Supreme Court of Canada case (other than Attorneys General) were: The Honourable Anne Cools, Member of the Senate and Roger Gallaway, Member of the House of Commons - Motion for leave to intervene, (bookform), Completed on: 2003-09-11 |
Sept 16, 2003 | Canadian Alliance introduced a motion in the House of Commons to take all necessary steps to maintain marriage as exclusively heterosexual. Both Egale and Canadians for Equal Marriage were active in mobilizing grass roots support against this motion and in lobbying Members of Parliament. The motion was defeated. EGALEs AFFIDAVIT OF IAN LAURIE ARRON November 2003 (Posted on EGALE website) |
Oct 27, 2003 | Senator Anne Cools speaks in the Senate to oppose Bill C-250, which would amend the Criminal Code to add Sexual orientation to the Hate Law. She said in the Senate: Bill C-250 is a slur on many Canadians. It is a criminal prosecutorial tool to cleanse these Canadians of their moral opinions My concerns stem from the fact that the term hate is not being used as Mr. Cohen conceptualized, but is being used by certain homosexual rights activists to mean anyone or anything that disagrees with them. Political and moral disagreement is immediately branded as hate. |
Nov 11, 2003 | Richard Warman visits the Freedomsite Message Board. Uses IP Address: 66.185.84.204 |
Nov 13, 2003 | Egale Canada intervenes in the Supreme Court hearing of Same-Sex Marriage - Supreme Court case: 29866. Lawyer representing Egale Families - Pam MacEachern |
Nov 15, 2003 | Richard Warman visits the Freedomsite Message Board. Uses IP Address: 66.185.84.204. Warman signs up the account Lucy and performs searches on message board. |
Nov 23, 2003 | Richard Warman visits the Freedomsite Message Board. Uses IP Address: 66.185.84.204 |
Nov 24, 2003 | Richard Warman files three separate but identical complaints with the Canadian Human Rights Commission. Warman files against: Marc Lemire CHRC case No. 20031961 The Freedomsite CHRC case No. 20031956 Craig Harrison |
Feb 2, 2004 | Richard Warman files a libel action against Paul Fromm and CAFE with the Superior Court of Justice (Ontario). Lawyer Pam MacEachern represents Warman. |
June 9, 2004 | EGALE attacks Senator Anne Cools on their website. Conservative Policies Attract Senator Cools She Has Long Record of Opposing Equality, Abortion, Feminism Led Fight in Senate Against Hate Crime Protection for Gays & Lesbians Senator Cools is known for her opposition to equality for lesbian and gay people, to abortion, and to feminists, said Cicely McWilliam, Outreach Coordinator for Canadians for Equal Marriage. She has even gone so far as to claim that abusive mothers are responsible for abusive men. Senator Cools has consistently denounced homosexuality and claimed that there is no evidence that gay and lesbian Canadians suffer from discrimination, said Laurie Arron, Political Coordinator for Canadians for Equal Marriage. She has opposed equality for gay and lesbian people at every turn. She will, Im sure, feel right at home in the new Conservative Party. Egale Website http://www.egale.ca |
July, 2006 | Harvey Goldberg of the CHRC meets with EGALE, who he calls a Stakeholder in Section 13 of the CHRA "As we discussed, the Commission would appreciate an opportunity to meet with representatives of EGALE to discuss with you the Commission's work regarding hate on the Internet." (Lemire Transcripts, Vol 25, Page 5483) MR. CHRISTIE: And who is EGALE? MR. GOLDBERG: Equality for Gays and Lesbians Everywhere. MR. CHRISTIE: So you call these stakeholders? MR. GOLDBERG: Yes. (Lemire Transcripts, Vol 23, Page 5148) |
Aug 28, 2006 | Marc Lemire files a motion before the CHRT to add Richard Warman as a respondent based on the Expert evidence provided by Bernard Klatt in a August 22, 2006 affidavit. |
Oct 6, 2006 | Richard Warman submits an affidavit in response to motion to add him as a party where he denies posting the message and also states: [4] I do not know Anne Cools, and have very little knowledge about her other than that I understand her to be a member of the Senate. I have no reason to have any animus against her. |
Oct 26, 2006 | CHRT Rules on motion to add Warman as a Respondent. [14] If Mr. Lemire is of the view that Mr. Warman has contravened the Act, he is free to file his own human rights complaint with the Commission. The Tribunal is, however, seized at this time with a complaint filed by Mr. Warman against Mr. Lemire. The addition of Mr. Warman as a respondent is not necessary to dispose of the complaint. Mr. Lemires motion is dismissed. |
July 13, 2007 | Xtra! Magazine article says Richard Warman is a member of EGALE. Warman says that the most recent decision will send "a strong message" to haters that "calls for the genocide of homosexuals and other groups will not be tolerated." Warman, an Egale Canada member and a federal civil servant, files these complaints in his spare time. |
Sept 6, 2007 | Richard Warman admits under oath that he is a member of EGALE. THE MEMBER: Are you a member of the group EGALE or the movement? EGALE. I will allow that question MR. WARMAN: then the answer is yes. (Audio Transcript Warman v. Guille: 9/6/2007: Position 1:40 ) |
WILL? They already do!
Could happen to us (FR) if Obama or clinton get in...
In 2006, I was hit with two identical human rights complaints because I published the Danish cartoons of Mohammed in the Western Standard magazine. We were simply doing what news magazines do publishing the news. But an anti-Semitic Calgary imam named Syed Soharwardy and the intolerant Edmonton Council of Muslim Communities complained to the Alberta Human Rights Commission that I discriminated against them, and demanded cash and an apology from me. Since then, their fatwa has been prosecuted by the Government of Alberta, using taxpayers dollars and government bureaucrats.
Instead of bowing my head in submission, I decided to fight back, publicizing the Alberta governments January, 2008 interrogation of me in videos that have now been seen well over 500,000 times on YouTube.
Over the past month, the publics reaction to seeing their government interrogate a journalist has snowballed into a national discussion about freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the separation of mosque and state. What started out as an issue reserved to the blogosphere and talk radio has jumped into the mainstream media, and even into Parliament. To my delight, the Canadian public across the political spectrum has been overwhelmingly supportive of free speech and critical of these Orwellian commissions, and groups like the Canadian Association of Journalists and PEN Canada have recently weighed in, too, and very vigorously.
Were winning in the court of public opinion and I say we, because it was the blogosphere that moved this story from the undernews to where it is today.
Well, now Im being threatened with a lawsuit because of our campaign for freedom.
Richard Warman
Just before the weekend, I received an e-mail from Richard Warman, the former investigator for the Canadian Human Rights Commission, who quit the commission in 2004 to become the commissions biggest customer. Approximately half of all complaints filed under the Canadian Human Rights Commissions section 13 idea crimes provision have been filed by Warman. The CHRC has a 100% conviction rate under that section, and besides ordering the poor shleps Warman complains about to pay fines to the government, theyre often ordered to pay thousands of dollars to Warman himself, too, for his hurt feelings. Unlike the paycheque he got when he used to work there, the cash he gets from commission fines is tax free.
Warman and his friends at the CHRC arent hitting me with a human rights complaint not yet, anyways. But he is threatening me with the most bizarre defamation lawsuit I think Ive ever encountered.
Absurd complaints
Its not the first threat Ive received from him; back in December, when I mentioned him in passing in a National Post Op-Ed, Warman fired off another threatening letter to me. Youve got to read it. I mean, really -- it included the complaint that I dared to call him anti-racist, rather than anti-racist. Thats right: the fact that I used quotation marks around those words was one of the reasons he was threatening to sue the National Post and me.
If that was Warmans most petty complaint, his most ironic complaint was that I called him a censor who abused the legal system, and that if I didnt immediately censor myself with a retraction and apology, hed hit me with a lawsuit. That blissful lack of self-awareness would be cute if it wasnt accompanied by a threat sort of like when Warman encouraged some young rowdies to take the piss out of people who are so pompous and so full of themselves by assaulting them with a cream pie. It was unsettling to watch a lawyer conspire in the commission of an assault.
As a publisher and columnist, Ive seen dozens of letters threatening defamation lawsuits, and I didnt think much of his December letter other than that it confirmed to me that Warman was indeed what his track record of human rights complaints would suggest: he truly is the most easily offended man in Canada.
Warman hires a lawyer
Well, Warman has just sent me another letter, quite similar to the first. This one was written by a Toronto lawyer. You can see it here. Its ten pages long, but most of that is simply rehashing several of my own blog posts. The rest of it is a mix of vanity, self-righteousness, hyper-sensitivity and plain old inaccuracies. Theres nothing wrong with that its called politics, or the clash of ideas. But normally such self-congratulatory flatus is posted on a blog, not dressed up as a lawsuit.
Im a defamation lawyer myself, and if I had to sum up Canadian law in four words, it would be this: get your facts straight. If your facts are correct, you have the right to your opinions on those facts even extreme or radical opinions. So Warmans complaint isnt really a lawsuit. Its a letter to the editor.
And thats the problem here. Warman is so used to operating in kangaroo courts so used to human rights commissions that are run by non-lawyers, with arbitrary procedures, no fixed rules of evidence, no meaningful standards of guilt, where truth is not a defence and fair comment doesnt exist that he thinks he can take his Orwellian thinking out from the cloister of these star chambers into the real world. Thats my earlier point: I dont think Warman even knows how ridiculous he looks.
The doctrine of fair comment
Warman may not share my opinion that he wastes taxpayers dollars, or acts as a censor, or that human rights commissions are a joke, etc. And his opinion might even be more reasonable than mine (its not). But its not unlawful for me to have my views. Not that my views are particularly radical many of my exact words are echoed in the language used by PEN Canada, the CAJ, the head of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, Noam Chomsky(!) and a dozen newspaper editorial boards across the country. That might hurt Warmans feelings, but hurt feelings arent the test of defamation law.
Most everything in those blog posts was my political opinion. I did assert a few facts: I wrote that Warman encouraged some young ruffians to assault a man with a pie. Thats not a matter of fair comment, its either factually accurate or not. Gentle reader, click here and tell me whether that fact is true or not. Im just not sure how Warman can deny that, but it will be interesting to watch him try.
The other factual assertion I made is that Warman himself planted anonymous posts on the Internet sites that he was stalking for a complaint. Again, its pretty tough for Warman to take issue with that, given that both he and commission staff admit under oath thats how they operate.
Well, Warman has tried to deny it in the past. But that didnt really work. Here is an interesting exchange before the tribunal: at first Warman denies that he posted anonymous, provocative comments to a website he took to the commission; then, when confronted with the fact of it, he sheepishly admits to that practice. If youre bored, you can read this lengthy affidavit by the webmaster proving that the bigoted remarks about Sen. Anne Cools were made by Warman himself. Heres a timeline of facts related to the Anne Cools remarks.
I started poking around a little bit about those disparaging comments about Sen. Anne Cools, because theyre obviously a source of embarrassment to Warman he seems to have complained to the National Post when they attributed those words to him. The Post decided to cut bait and move on theyve been Canadas best champions of free speech, so they deserve a little slack for not digging in. But, unless Ive missed it, in at least two other legal actions his defamation suit against Free Dominion, and his human rights complaint against Marc Lemire Warman has conspicuously omitted any reference to their claims that he made the Anne Cools remarks. If those bigoted comments werent made by him, the assertion that they were would be defamatory, and would be the strongest part of those suits. Ill bet you a dollar this subject doesn't find its way into any suit against me, either.
These folks just keep coming
Look: I didnt want any of these fights. I just wanted to publish a magazine. Two years ago, when the first, absurd, hand-scrawled human rights complaint was filed against me, I tried hard to make it go away quickly and inexpensively, by writing this earnest reply. But neither Syed Soharwardy nor Shirlene McGovern would let me go that easily. Now, both of them are gone -- both quit. (But I'm not free; a new Alberta human rights officer is still prosecuting the Edmonton Muslim Council's version of the complaint against me.)
Now, after staying silent for months, Richard Warman wants to enter the fray. Not as a debater with arguments, but as a silencer, outlawing arguments. A man more certain of his case would rely on words, not lawsuits, to rebut me and would take his lumps for his bad behavior, such as encouraging the physical assault on David Icke.
But Warman doesnt appear to believe in debates. He believes in what he calls maximum disruption of his political adversaries. On page 8 of that speech, Warman cant even bring himself to categorically rule out violence against his foes. He defines unacceptable violence as violence that is indiscriminate and places the safety of other individuals at risk because such indiscriminate violence that hurts bystanders is morally suspect and puts in jeopardy broader public support. Its tough to imagine true human rights activists like Martin Luther King or Mohandas Gandhi parsing acceptable and unacceptable violence that way. And its clear that the intended assault on David Icke slips through his loophole. Perhaps I should be glad Warman hit me with a lawyers letter, and not a pie in the face.
Im going to fight like Hell
As a defamation lawyer, I know that Warmans complaints are baseless. So, other than the nuisance and cost of defending the suit the maximum disruption that Warman promises theres nothing to fear. For me, at least.
But what about for Warman? Until now, he could beaver away on his human rights complaints while I railed harmlessly in the media. I had no impact on him, other than on his ego. But now hes changed that. Hes decided to lock himself into a formal legal process with me, in a real court, with real rules not the loosey-goosey kangaroo court where he used to work.
Before, he could ignore me; now he has to answer my questions about his conduct under oath; now he has to disclose documents touching on the many matters at hand everything from e-mails to files on his hard drive. No comment and thats confidential dont work in an examination for discovery.
Warman as a surrogate for the commission
And though it seems likely that Richard Warman will be the sole plaintiff against me, in effect its as if section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act itself, the idea crimes section, is suing me, because Warman is such a dominant user of that section. If the political campaign to rescind section 13 succeeds, no-one will be affected as much as Warman. No wonder hes so mad.
In that sense, it is as if the commission is suing me. And since my discussion of Warmans unusual relationship with the commission is one of his complaints against me, they get dragged into this, indirectly. Before, they too could ignore me. Now, I have standing to apply to the court for subpoenas, both for internal commission documents and to compel the testimony of commission staff.
I must admit that Im surprised Warman would do this. I had not yet received his threatening letter when I wrote this post last week, remarking on the wisdom of Warman for keeping a low profile. I think hes so used to slam-dunks, he thinks this case will be the same. But this time will be different.
Weve got a solid case in law and unlike many of the poor shlubs Warman fights against, Ive actually got lawyers, and I think the truth will come out. But thats not really what the next year or two is going to be about.
Court of law and court of public opinion
Warman might think that this is another episode of him shooting fish in a barrel. But thats probably what poor Shirlene McGovern thought, too I was just another politically incorrect chump to rough up.
Dear reader, I dont think Im going to be like the easy pickings that Warman is used to fighting. While my top gun lawyers are taking care of business in the court of law, Ill be working vigorously in the court of public opinion. Ill ensure that every legal document, every piece of interesting testimony, every embarrassing admission I exact from Warman and the human rights commission will be shown to the whole world (subject to any legal restrictions). Unlike human rights commissions, where only the victim of the complaint is grilled, defamation lawsuits are two-way streets. Its Warman whos going to be famous. Ill use every interlocutory application, every motion, every pleading and every day of the trial to shed light on the commissions shenanigans. I wonder if Warman has thought through the idea of giving me a forum; I wonder what his friends at the commission will think when they start getting subpoenas; I wonder what advice Shirlene McGovern would offer them about engaging me in such a process.
What happens next
If it isnt evident, let me tell you my goals. And please tell me if they are your goals, too:
Win in the court of law
Beating Warmans suit will be much more than a personal vindication. It will reaffirm to him and to the country that censorship of political views is not a Canadian value. When Warren Kinsella backed down from his threats to sue bloggers, it strengthened the blogosphere, and evaporated lingering fears people had about the self-described ass-kicker. This will be an order of magnitude greater: to have a judge dismiss the suit, with costs against Warman, will be a watershed in the battle against political correctness, censorship, and the abuse of human rights commissions.
Denormalize human rights commissions in the court of public opinion
There have been others who have fought (and are still fighting) the human rights commissions. But for various reasons they havent been able to effectively share their story with the public at large. The attention my case has received so far, combined with the absurdity of Warmans suit, combined with, well, the fact that Im not a white supremacist or neo-Nazi, will ensure that the excesses of the commissions are in the news every day for years, showing them to be the un-Canadian institutions they have become.
Make political change possible
It has been difficult to get the minority Conservative government in Ottawa to rein in the human rights commissions, despite near-universal public support, and even some encouraging bi-partisan comments. Thats because they perceive the risk of amending the act to be greater than the reward theyre worried about being labeled as hostile to human rights in a looming election as if free speech and due process werent human rights. But there is another political risk the risk of inaction. Much of the dirty business that has been exposed by Marc Lemires lawsuit against the human rights commission happened on the Liberal governments watch. But if planting anonymous messages and other bad behavior by commission staff is continuing under the Conservative government and I see no reason to believe its stopped despite the calls for change, thats a risk to the Conservatives, too. It's a possible scandal.
One of my explicit goals is to open the publics eyes to the commissions operations, to make it so evident to voters that these commissions arent just nuisances, theyre positively dangerous. My goal is to change the political calculus make the safe, smart move to contain and eliminate the commissions, not to ignore them as is currently the case.
Keep myself financially whole
When I walked into my interrogation on January 11, I honestly didnt know where I was going to get the money from to pay my lawyer our magazine, now defunct, was no longer footing the bill. And though I was confident I could find some generous donors to cover that bill, I really didnt know how much longer I could afford to fight. Thanks to the generosity and solidarity of the blogosphere, I was able to put aside any stress even in the back of my mind, that I didnt want to admit to and focus on kicking the tar out of these commissions. I need to do the same here.
Other than cost, there is no obstacle to fighting Richard Warmans nuisance suit and trying to bring down the whole damn human rights commission along with him. Well be fighting in a real court, not a kangaroo court; Ive got the personal interest and motivation to follow this through, and I believe I have the ability to demonstrate to the public the problems with the commissions better than any of its other victims have been able to do. All I need is money.
Based on experience and observation, I estimate that fighting this suit will cost $100,000 and fighting it like hell that is, going on the offence, and taking the battle right into the heart of the commission itself could cost more than $200,000. That sounds like a lot of money, but if that discredits the commissions so badly that they either abandon their section 13 witch hunts or, more likely, that the federal government is finally embarrassed into action then its worth it. I dont know, but Id guess that Macleans magazine itself will wind up spending close to that much merely defending itself and Mark Steyn in the three(!) human rights commissions it has been dragged into.
How you can help
I promise to fight this fight until the end. Ive got the best lawyers and a great legal case. But Ive got something much better than that now: Ive got Richard Warman and the human rights commission locked into a process that will allow me to expose how they really operate. Imagine the questions I can ask; imagine the documents I can demand to see. Ill give this my energy and time, but with a young family, I cant give it my life savings.
If you think this is your battle too, and if you agree with me that crushing Warman's lawsuit in a spectacular manner could change the law and make Canada more free, then please help. You can click on the PayPal button at the top of this website (and below), or if you prefer, you can send a contribution directly to my defence team, care of this address. If youve already contributed to my fight, please consider helping again or telling a like-minded friend about this situation.
When I received Richard Warmans legal threat, my first reaction was surprise, then amusement, then anger. But not now. Now I feel like I have been given an amazing opportunity. A duty, really: to do what our politicians so far wont do. I want to do what it takes to shut these abusive commissions down, once and for all. Let me know if you'll help me fight.
And a welcome opportunity for Lucy to pay someone else's costs for a change.
February 25, 2008 12:35 AM by Michelle Malkin17 Comments | 2 Trackbacks "Canada does not need a Canadian Human Rights Commission, it needs a Common Sense Commission. It is our fight also."
- this libel fight will be before a real court. And Im certain Levant will win. And once he does, well be free to reprint every single allegation in his persecutors libel suit: http://ezralevant.com/Letter%20-%20Levant%20-%2008.02.20.pdf
and in the words of Levant de-normalize these kangaroo courts.
And a welcome opportunity for Lucy to pay someone else's costs for a change.
Update - here. "Now, just for fun, can you think of any way of establishing that Warman did in fact use the IP from which the nasty screed on Anne Cools would have been posted? For example, is it possible that Lucy sent some emails from that IP on the days in question? And is it possible that he might have used such emails as evidence in other proceedings?"
Heh.
Update 2 - Understanding the evidence.
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Rt. Hon. Stephen Harper, Prime Minister Office of the Prime Minister 80 Wellington Street Ottawa K1A 0A2 Date: xxxx Dear Mr. Prime Minister: Freedom of speech is the cornerstone of democracy. On behalf of all Canadians, who believe this to be true, we present your office with this Kramer statue called Family with 1 Child. This represents many of the values we hold and of those to which we speak. We do not come before you with our hats in our hands or our shoulders bent, and we ask for nothing. We state our inalienable right of the freedom of speech. Our heads may be bloodied, but they are unbowed. We shall continue with or without your support. Yours very truly, Free Speechers, Citizens of Canada |
Thanks, Old Jed!
UPDATE: In my comments, the singer-songwriter himself weighs in. I think he might have discovered a new human right! Hilarious:
Thanks for posting it, Ezra. Your clips on youtube are awesome, and I'm glad I can lend some moral support, if not hit the donate button quite yet.I know my singing isn't the greatest, but what the heck, maybe they can throw that in with the lawsuit."His satiric songs were not only libelous, but his off-key singing was offensive to the ears"
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Yes- quoth Ezra's blog:
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