J.F.K.’s Death, Re-Framed

New York Times ^ | November 22, 2007 | MAX HOLLAND and JOHANN RUSH

[decimon]

FORTY-FOUR years ago today, a clothing company owner named Abraham Zapruder filmed the assassination of John F. Kennedy in Dallas. And for 44 years, most people have presumed that his home movie captured the assassination in its entirety. This presumption has led to deep misunderstandings.

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But what if Zapruder simply hadn’t turned on his camera in time?

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If the commission had followed up this insight, it would have conceivably been able to describe the duration and intervals of the shooting sequence: that Oswald fired three shots in approximately 11.2 seconds, with intervals of 6.3 seconds and 4.9 seconds between the shots.

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[mkjessup]

That’s right. Call it a “Magic Bullet”. That’s the 11-22 Truthers name for their “Building Number Seven”. Everything you don’t understand is somehow impossible. The second bullet went through Kennedy’s five inches of flesh to hit Connelly. That’s like you holding a canned ham in front of yourself while I shoot a 161 grain bullet going 2000 feet a second and you’re telling me you will be absolutely safe. Tell you what. Name the time and place and we can duplicate this. You can even leave the ham inside the can. Deal?

Explain how that bullet that was found after it rolled off John Connelly's stretcher was nearly undamaged and in nearly pristine condition:

Take all the time you want.

KJO? We got a live one here.

[indthkr]

conspiracy bump for later.........

[decimon]

Old Joe Kennedy should have listened a little closer to the man who helped JFK become president. “ I will do you this service but one day, and that day may never come, I will ask a service from you”

Don Corleone got JFK elected?

[A.A. Cunningham]

the final head shot comes from the front.

BS

while the back of his head gets blown off.

The right front side of the head was blown off by the exiting round. The clean entry hole was in the rear. Like most nuts you obviously don't know much about ballistics.

[airborne]

The folks on DU must be laughing their asses off and I have no idea why Jim Rob allows this stupidity to continue.

Lighten up! Some times it's fun to take a break from reality and yuck it up! ;^)

[Bommer]

Explain how that bullet that was found after it rolled off John Connelly's stretcher was nearly undamaged and in nearly pristine condition:

All the wounds contrary to what the tinfoil crowd stats were through soft tissue. No shattering and smashing of bones. The truth about the bullet is not in the shot, but in the positioning of Connelly. Contrary to the lies of the conspiracy theroists, Connally was not sitting directly in fron of Kennedy in a regualr seat as depicted by this but was in a jump seat 3 inches lower and to JFK's left. If this is taken into consideration, plus the undisputed evidence of both mens shirts showing the exact wounds, the shot went through mostly soft tissue. This shot BTW was recreated on the history Channel, 'The Kennedy Assassination - Beyond Conspiracy' with the same round and gun shot though ballistic gel. The bullet came out almost identical as well as recreating the exact wounds. It will be shown again on the History Channel on Saturday Nov. 24th @ 10PM EST if you want to see the recreation for yourself!

[RightWhale]

Coast tonight with George Noory will be the annual JFK conspiracy show.

[itsahoot]

Oswald acted alone, period.

You and Arlen Specter "Magic Bullet and all" on the same side, cool.

[itsahoot]

First, a company digitally mapped all of Dealy Plaza, a technique that was not available at the time of the initial investigation. Then, they created a replica of the limo and placed 2 men

Amazing, but the truth is, digital reproduction can be used to make the impossible seem very credible.

[Don Corleone]

Old Joe Kennedy should have listened a little closer to the man who helped JFK become president. “ I will do you this service but one day, and that day may never come, I will ask a service from you”

Don Corleone got JFK elected?

I helped.

[itsahoot]

Simple physics confirms that a shot from behind and up could never create such force.

They shot many cadavers and goats trying to prove it, but they didn't convince me either.

[mkjessup]

This shot BTW was recreated on the history Channel, 'The Kennedy Assassination - Beyond Conspiracy' with the same round and gun shot though ballistic gel. The bullet came out almost identical as well as recreating the exact wounds. It will be shown again on the History Channel on Saturday Nov. 24th @ 10PM EST if you want to see the recreation for yourself!

Well Great Jumpin' Jesus! If the History Channel says it, why it must be so.

Put me in the ranks of the 'Oswald Done It Gang, Just The Way The Warren Commission Said He Did'.

Man, thanks for opening my eyes!

[itsahoot]

I bet you believe that a guy getting shot by a 12 gauge shotgun will fly across a room too. Hollywood at it's finest.

Nope, but I can guarantee he sure won't lunge forwards. I was on a tanker in the Gulf of Tonkin on that morning. I previously served in The Nation Guard and US Army, where I earned Expert Marksmanship with both the M1 and Carbine. I fired BAR's Thompsons, and grease guns, even Quad fifties when in the National Guard along with being a crew chief on an m19 gun carriage which sported twin 40's. So I have fired of a few rounds.

[itsahoot]

Take all the time you want. <.i>

Crickets will put you to sleep before you hear one peep on that one. Like I said on another post they shot up a whole lot of cadavers and pigs trying to get that result, I would sure like one of those slugs that managed to come out looking like that.

[Northern Yankee]

You know... I used to love Free Republic, because we could have reasonable debate without being insulting.

Too bad thats changed.

Happy Thanksgiving.

[Northern Yankee]

Watch the film.

I have seen it more than I care to remember.

Oh... forget it.

Happy Thanksgiving.

[gate2wire]

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[Northern Yankee]

Cadavers are dead.

Watch the film.

[Northern Yankee]

Happy Thanksgiving.

I'm not into conspiracy theories. I have no clue who shot and killed JFK. Just watch the Zapruder film more than a few times. You see people running away from the knoll, and pointing to police officers that shots came from the knoll.

Happy Thanksgiving.

[Shooter 2.5]

Now show the other side of that bullet. The side the nutcase 11-22 truthers don’t want you to see.

The nose of that bullet has a gouge in it from hitting Connelly’s rib bone. From the long elongated exit wound when the bullet key holed, the bullet is also flattened and the exposed lead flowed out like a toothpaste tube.

But I guess you’re so bright I can sell you a used car but you can only see one side of it. You can ignore the side that smashed into the wall.