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J.F.K.’s Death, Re-Framed
New York Times ^ | November 22, 2007 | MAX HOLLAND and JOHANN RUSH

Posted on 11/22/2007 6:09:56 AM PST by decimon

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To: kjo

I saw JFK alive and dead on the same day. I knew the docs who worked on Kennedy at Parkland. I saw the Oswald family enroute to view his body at the Parkland morgue. The Warren Commission was correct in it’s conclusions! Conspiracist? No, I was a resident physician at Parkland.


101 posted on 11/22/2007 9:02:17 AM PST by Doctor Don
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
100 percent correct. Oswald was one of “theirs.”

Exactly right. But "they" didn't want him, having discovered what a loose cannon he was. Oswald hoped to gain their acceptance by offing Kennedy as a favor to Castro.

Lee Harvey Oswald distributing literature on behalf of the Fair Play For Cuba Committee, August 9, 1963. The headline on the leaflet reads "Hands off Cuba!"(photo taken by Michael O,Connor)
Lee Harvey Oswald distributing literature on behalf of the Fair Play For Cuba Committee, August 9, 1963. The headline on the leaflet reads "Hands off Cuba!"(photo taken by Michael O,Connor)

102 posted on 11/22/2007 9:03:31 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Sudetenland

Yeah, it’s extremely difficult to prove a negative. Troofers of any stripe just through preposterous hypotheses and defy “deniers” to disprove them. The game isn’t worth the candle.

Any evidence that doesn’t conform to their preconceived ideas is rejected, belittled and dismissed, the mere allegations conforming to their world view are embraced as Holy Writ, beyond questioning.

Until 9/11, the JFK assassination was the greatest well spring of conspricacy theories.


103 posted on 11/22/2007 9:09:45 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Cheburashka

The entire scenario has markings of higher level operative Masonry involvement. For this reason, we probably will never know the truth behind it in this world, but for this very reason, respect legitimate authority, let them play their hand and let God provide perfect justice for all, simply through faith in Christ.


104 posted on 11/22/2007 9:10:04 AM PST by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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To: RightWhale

Could you give a tip as to where one would begin to follow that as a source?

I’m not arguing, merely curious. It doesn’t bother me to read many a CT including those from Tex Marrs or Brandon Files, but in the long run I suspect their faith might not be a soundly placed as should be....


105 posted on 11/22/2007 9:12:33 AM PST by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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To: Cvengr

Source? We don’t need no steenkin’ source. BTW, I was in Germany that day, nowhere near Dallas.


106 posted on 11/22/2007 9:15:10 AM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: decimon

A fiction writer who’s book plot was about frameing someone and he had his main character equiped with Carcano would be told by his publisher to change piece of fiction or his book might flop. Also it’s hard to see a knowlegable person choosing the Carcano. Don’t pass the smell test to me.


107 posted on 11/22/2007 9:17:14 AM PST by Waco
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To: decimon

Crimony.....Get over it, people.


108 posted on 11/22/2007 9:18:20 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car......with guns.)
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To: kjo
Yep... you take a look at the Zapruder film, and the final head shot comes from the front.

It knocks JFK back into the seat, while the back of his head gets blown off. Jackie, who is right next to him, is seen leaning over at the moment of impact. She is not hurled into the back seat.

Simple physics confirms that a shot from behind and up could never create such force. It would be the opposite.

109 posted on 11/22/2007 9:21:03 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: decimon

Other than that Mrs Kennedy, how was Dallas??


110 posted on 11/22/2007 9:22:21 AM PST by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Happy Thanksgiving!

On my way out... ; )

111 posted on 11/22/2007 9:23:00 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Maine Mariner

After reading all of this, I think I am going to throw up.


112 posted on 11/22/2007 9:25:52 AM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: decimon
There are many who think LHO was a "stringer" for the CIA.

113 posted on 11/22/2007 9:30:48 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: decimon

He’s still dead right ?

Or are their JFK sightings in the book depository maybe he’s reading the latest edition of harry potter or ann coulters Godless

May he somehow rest in peace ...


114 posted on 11/22/2007 9:31:23 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Global Warming : Tape a liberals mouth shut and thats the end of Global Warming {both ways})
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To: ConfusedAndLovingIt
Could be, but what makes you think the noise level diminished as the motorcade progressed? We're only talking about 18 Seconds. Seems to me once they realized they were gunshots, the noise level would have picked up because of people screaming and scurrying about.

Even so, the number of shots fired in the film were not hard to hear, as they identified both shots, and possibly a third, if one was only an echo. (The questionable one on the Police Department recorder picked up from the motorcyle cop's microphone, which was inadvertently left keyed.)

But I wasn't there, so can't speak with authority. Just guessing like everyone else. The number of theories we have on this is comensurately higher depending on who has the most information and how well they are able to integrate it.

I think it's humorous, personally. Everyone thinking they have better logic or have secret info nobody else has. Heh.

115 posted on 11/22/2007 9:34:27 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: kjo
CIA came out this year and admitted with the papers it released to trying to hire Roselli to take down Castro.
116 posted on 11/22/2007 9:45:08 AM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Cvengr; uglybiker
"operative Masonry"

Your mis-use of the phrase says much about your theory.

The Stonecutters did it, huh?

117 posted on 11/22/2007 9:49:05 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: decimon

I was in Dallas a few years ago, and visited Dealey (sp?) plaza. It was surprizing, to me anyway, how small of an area that is, from the book depository, to the “grassy noll” and the fence. seems like it was about 60 -70 yards.
seems like a much bigger area when looking at the videos.


118 posted on 11/22/2007 9:51:06 AM PST by tm61
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Do you think Roselli was one of the players in JFK’s murder?


119 posted on 11/22/2007 9:53:17 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: msnpatriot
While discussing conspiracies in the past, I’ve noticed the trend to label contradicting evidence as “disinformation” without ever giving a reason why. So, I apologize if I was overly sarcastic earlier.

Now as far as how Jean Hill is treated: I don’t read as challenging her claims made in ‘63 as much as how they changed later. For example:

In ‘63, she only heard shots from the knoll and saw a man running from the book depository. Later, she saw Badge Man on the knoll and it was Jack Ruby running from the building. Plus, SS agents tried to pressure into saying that there were only 3 shots - an incident not mentioned at all in ‘63. I’d say, those changes are suspicious

120 posted on 11/22/2007 9:54:45 AM PST by Sapper26 (Quondo Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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