Posted on 11/21/2007 9:31:52 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
Apparently, America's greatest patriot was on Loonwaffle/Trooferville's favorite radio show today with the King Nutbar himself, although I'm not sure if anyone grabbed audio.
If you want to listen to the rebroadcast stream, go here. I don't feel like it. Have fun.
As if there aren't any hateful and deranged nuts out there wanting to fly airplanes into our buildings, if they can. As if they view American leaders as no better than al Qaeda terrorists. As if their opinions on the physcial science of airplanes crashing into and bringing down towers are all infallable, and everyone else are dunces for failing to see how much smarter they are and how terrible American leadership and self-governance is.
Jones is media. He has a radio show just like Rush does. It's another outlet for Paul to get his message of freedom out. You do realize that Paul has to use the alternative media because the MSM and even conservative radio hosts & blogs avoid or denigrate him like the plague, right?
Usually when you appear on a radio show, you are in agreement with the host.
But that's not true in Paul's case. Paul doesn't share Jones' views. The questions Jones' ask are hyperbolic & Paul will answer them straightforward as he always does.
How many times has Hillary been on Rush’s show? How many times has Cheney been on Air America? They don’t go on those shows because there is no level of agreement between the host and the guest.
Hillary & Cheney are in positions to go on any media outlet of their choosing. Hillary appeared on FOX News Sunday with Chris Wallace. So that makes Hillary is a moderate-conservative now, right?
There's a reason why the "PAUL'S A KOOK!" smears aren't in the media and even have been dismissed by Jonah Goldberg. The only people making a big deal out of this are the folks who have to smear Paul because they can't refute his record or his integrity. It's the same thing "conservatives" did to Barry Goldwater and it's happening again.
By that logic, why not jump on Al Jazerra or Stormfront radio? They are media and could help him get his message of 'freedom'(sic) out. Why has he refused to go on with Glen Beck? Seems if he will go wherever he can get his message out, he would love to accept Beck's invitations.
You deliberately confuse the issues. Ron Paul can't control who votes for him, any more than he can control who supports him.
He can, however, reject support from the truther community, as well as hate groups. It's simple to do, all candidates do it.
IMO the truther ideology, that's the topic here, is essentially un-American, in most forms suggesting the worst forms of criminal behaivior on the part of our public officials.
I'll be the first to support GWB's impeachment, or criminal charges for anyone involved in the conspiracy, if truther charges are proven true, but till then they're just a bunch of anarchist nutballs.
Paul should be willing to denounce their ideology, required only because he continually seeks their votes, rather he suggests that it's a good thing Dems are in power, and maybe another 9/11 investigation would be a good idea.
Of course he thinks GWB should be impeached, so at least he's consistant on that point.
He panders to the worst impulses of society for vote.
"I would have trouble arguing that he's [GWB]been a Constitutional President and once you violate the Constitution and be proven to do that I think these people should be removed from office."
BTW, if you care to provide examples of the other Republican candidates slumming for votes like Paul does, be my guest.
I doubt they even think there are al Qaeda terrorists. All part of a deep government plot, you see.
Not at all. He just makes regular appearances on a show hosted by the biggest 9/11 troofer pimp on the planet. No association at all.
There is ample evidence that we were attacked by Muslim terrorists; foreign and domestic intelligence agencies detected planning activities and issued vague warnings. But there is also considerable evidence that those who attacked us did more than just fly the planes into the Towers. By all appearances, additional steps were taken, in advance, on the ground, to result in the total destruction of WTC1, 2 and 7. I see no other explanation for the pools of molten steel, the existence of which would help explain why two towers that were engineered to survive almost exactly such a strike did not do so. Who took the additional steps is unknown. Leftists would like to believe Bush et al. were involved, and there are nuts all over ranting about that, but the evidence I think is worth paying attention to is the physics that doesn’t add up.
Paul doesn't see people as groups or collective classes. He sees them as individuals.
Votes are just that, votes. Once one gets inside the ballot booth, a politician simply has no way of knowing what that person ideology or agenda is. Like I said a million times, Neo-Nazis and illegals probably voted for Bush in 2004, there's simply no way of knowing.
Alex Jones thinks President Bush murdered 3,000 Americans for oil and Israel.
The fact that you aren’t concerned that your candidate of choice is always on his show and is always courting his audience speaks volume about the Paulestinians.
Imagine if Obama went on his show. There would be outrage from all corners of the political spectrum. The only reason why nobody really cares about Paul going on the show is because outside of the internet he is virtually unknown.
And it’s laughable to compare Goldwater to Paul. Goldwater didn’t court anti-American and anti-Semitic voters.
In the nut department, I defer to you. You're the expert. Just like you're the expert building engineer.
If you want a break from your knowitallisms, have a gander at what the real experts have concluded.
http://www.construction.com/NewsCenter/Headlines/ENR/20021025b.asp
Yes, you've explained that to me. I disagree, they're groups, just like FR is a group, with a shared ideology. Since you mention neonazi/racist, it that case you're actually dealing with organized groups.
In the case of some o A candidate does a Q&A thread here, it's because he wants support from the group. Unless, of course, he's condemning us. And Paul isn't condemning truther ideology on Jones.
Nazis and illegals may well have voted for GWB in 2004, but he'd be the first to condemn their ideology and actions were it brought to his attention.
The nature of parts of his support has been brought to Paul's attention, and he's OK with it. His decision, but he's going to have to live with the contempt of those of us who are willing to condemn those ideologies.
Popular Mechanics destroyed all of your nutball theories. They used real engineers and did real investigations and none of your theories held water. Actually the attack did its job and thanks to the building’s engineering thousands were saved. It was not built to withstand a 100 ton aircraft full of fuel flying at 400mph.
Now run along to all your truthers and shout conspiracy.
Pray for W and Our Troops
Knock it off. We all know the government did it. The folks at Popular Mechanics should have consulted with Iconoclast2.
True enough. Countless scientific experiments where 110-story buildings were collapsed failed to reproduce the molten steel /sarcasm.
I hate to tell you this (actually, I don't), but we've never had 110-story buildings collapse before, so we had no prior experiences about the physical state of the debris afterwards. A tremendous amount of energy was released when the buildings did collapse - and the typical end-state of kinetic energy is ... heat.
Penn and Teller do not tell me where the pools of molten steel come from. They tell me that there are a lot of Leftist nuts out there with stupid conspiracy theories. But thanks for the link; I watched it and learned some new things.
Here’s one for you. I recognize that it is produced by Leftist atheists who are clearly wrong in many of things they say. It is overly slick, and has much of the crazy stuff in it, including all the “blame Bush stuff”, but if you can see past this (and it gets off to a slow start), it has an awful lot of raw footage from 9/11/01 and other evidence that tells a very compelling story. It would be useful if there were a more physics-based video, without all of the political bullshit, but I am not aware of one.
Small:
http://freedocumentaries.org/theatre.php?id=997&wh=400x311
Large:
http://freedocumentaries.org/theatre.php?id=997&wh=800x520
Maybe because Paul doesn't know any Muslims or white supremacists personally like he does with Jones. Maybe because their channels don't reach a broader, more diverse audience like the Jones' show does. I would say the latter, that Al Jazeera and Stormfront are narrowly focused to groups & Paul already doesn't endorse their views.
They are media and could help him get his message of 'freedom'(sic) out.
They're not media in the sense that the Alex Jones show is. Jones' show is syndicated nationally, just like Rush's show is. Jones also discuss topics other than wacko 9/11 theories, some of the issues are corruption in our government You know, part of the reason why FR was founded and the very real possibility of the NAU & our eroding sovereignty. Lots of musical & sports guests too. Pat Buchanan was a guest of the Jones show. Jones' show reaches the populist left & independent audience, and yes, this is a key constituency of Dr. Paul's base.
Why has he refused to go on with Glen Beck? Seems if he will go wherever he can get his message out, he would love to accept Beck's invitations.
After calling Paul's supporters "terrorists" I don't think Paul would be going on Beck's show anytime soon.
Hey, do me a favor and run down to your local welding shop and have them show you what happens to steel when just a small torch is run over it for a few seconds. You don’t need to melt steel, strain-hardened steel can be softened enough to bend with a fraction of the heat it takes to melt it.
http://www.thefabricator.com/Metallurgy/Metallurgy_Article.cfm?ID=796
Now Rosie, I believe you have some job hunting to do..
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