Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Constitutional Patriot

I understand your concern about looking to other sources. Perhaps they could turn to the “Dick Act” of 1907. This Act is law that established the National Guard. This federal law defined the militia as consisting of both an organized (National Guard and Reserve) and an unorganized militia (all others capable of bearing arms but not in the organized militia). This remains federal law.

BTW, don’t you think it a bit absurd to even consider that the founding fathers meant the militia to be the National Guard, an organization that would not be founded for over a hundred fifty years?

I’m a bit surprised that USSC would even consider this case since I don’t think there is a clear majority for either side. Perhaps something will emerge that limits gun control only to those instances where a state must demonstrate a very compelling interest, something beyond we just don’t like guns. Of course, USSC could issue a very limited ruling that hinges upon the uniqueness of DC since it is not a state.

What gives me optimism is the fact that well respected legal scholars such as Lawrence Tribe have endorsed the individual rights position.

For another thing, I don’t really think there has been much scholorship on the 2nd for a number of years. First, it was generally assumed to be an individual right. Then, it became chic to believe in the state right that could be used to justify all sorts of mischief. Now, it appears that serious scholars are beginning to say that it must be an individual right.

Believing the 2nd defines a right to be exercised collectively has several major issues. The one I find most compelling is this. If you believe the 2nd amendment supports a right to bear arms only when a part of state organization, then you should also believe that your first amendment right to freedom of speech can also be exercised collectively thru National Public Radio. If one right is collective, then all rights can be too.


76 posted on 11/22/2007 5:14:33 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies ]


To: DugwayDuke
BTW, don’t you think it a bit absurd to even consider that the founding fathers meant the militia to be the National Guard, an organization that would not be founded for over a hundred fifty years?

We may consider it absurd, but 5 judges may not. They may conclude that the militia of old in today's meaning is today's National Guard.

78 posted on 11/22/2007 5:19:53 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies ]

To: DugwayDuke

Well, it says the right of “the people”.
Not “the militiamen” or “the army”.

To suggest that they meant it to be otherwise is like saying “the people” don’t have a right to free speech, only “the publishers” or “the media”.


79 posted on 11/22/2007 5:20:44 AM PST by djf (Send Fred some bread! Not a whole loaf, a slice or two will do!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies ]

To: DugwayDuke

I agree wholeheartedly with what you wrote. I find it amusing that so many quasi-intellectuals try to claim that the 2nd applies to the National Guard when the NG wasn’t created for over 100 years after the 2nd was ratified.


96 posted on 11/22/2007 7:26:57 AM PST by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson