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To: Texas Songwriter

So you’re saying that an ER that treats 40,000 trauma patients won’t have at least 140 die? If so, somebody’s not triaging traumas properly. The analogy is accurate, by the way. It’s a proven fact that people die after being admitted to an ER, but saying that being admitted to an ER CAUSES people to die is the same as saying deaths following taser use are being caused by the taser. And, that logical falacy is exactly what’s being foisted on the public at the moment.

Again, following our comparison, it’d be far more relevant when making a decision about an ER to know how many of those deaths were caused by the errors of the medical staff. It’d also be far more relevant to know how many ‘taser related’ deaths are actually caused by the taser. Unfortunately, in the latter case, no attempt is being made to quantify cause of death, they’re just lumping all deaths together. Last I heard, the number of deaths in taser incidents that have been determined to a reasonable degree of medical certainty to have been actually caused by the taser totalled two, which means tasers are probably less dangerous to life than improper use of tampons.


417 posted on 11/21/2007 9:59:38 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: ArmstedFragg
It’d also be far more relevant to know how many ‘taser related’ deaths are actually caused by the taser.

By comparing "deaths by taser" to deaths in an ER, you seem to imply it's not the taser that kills, it's the actions of the person prior to being tased which lead to their death.

Seems logical...
418 posted on 11/21/2007 10:23:01 PM PST by darbymcgill
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To: ArmstedFragg

The ER treating 40,000 colds, not heart attacks, resulting in 140 deaths is unacceptible. Treating 40,000 heart attacks (real crimes) not an average visit to the ER, just like a speeding trap is not equivalent to running dope or home invasions. Look at what the kid was doing.


542 posted on 11/23/2007 6:48:48 AM PST by Texas Songwriter
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