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YouTube Video Shows Man Tasered After Refusing to Sign Ticket
Fox News ^ | November 21, 2007 | Sara Bonisteel

Posted on 11/21/2007 11:58:07 AM PST by Sopater

An internal police investigation is under way after a formal complaint was filed against a Utah state trooper who was videotaped Tasering a man who refused to sign a speeding ticket.

The officer's conduct has been called into question after a videotape of the incident was posted on YouTube.

The video, taken from a Utah Highway Patrol dashboard camera, shows Trooper John Gardner using a Taser on Jared Massey during a traffic stop on State Road 40 in Uintah County on Sept. 14.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; leo; revenuetickets; taser; utah
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To: Sopater
What happened, couldn’t the cop get to his shotgun or his sniper rifle fast enough?
41 posted on 11/21/2007 12:15:07 PM PST by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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To: Halls
All he had to do was tell him sign or go to jail

Yep, that would've almost certainly done the trick. But it wouldn't have given the cop the same satisfaction.

42 posted on 11/21/2007 12:15:21 PM PST by Mr. Mojo (“Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors and miss.")
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To: Sopater
the only thing i can see this guy do is begin to walk away from the cop after the cop tells him to stop. and the guys hands go towards his pockets which is not good.

that being said, the officer should have said, "if you do not sign this, i'll take you into custody."

maybe he did. audio was spotty.

43 posted on 11/21/2007 12:15:42 PM PST by thefactor
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To: Sopater

I’m the last guy to automatically say the cops are always in the right but, after watching the video, the guy was resisting arrest.

The cop could have wrestled with him and wound up rolling into traffic.

I think tasing was justified.


44 posted on 11/21/2007 12:15:43 PM PST by keat (You know who I feel bad for? Arab-Americans who truly want to get into crop-dusting.)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
the officer had no obligation to tell him that he was under arrest at that time.

Are you sure about this? Being under arrest imposes certain obligations on both the driver and the officer. It seems to me that the driver needs to know that he is under arrest. If you are under arrest then you must obey the officer or else you are resisting arrest. If you are not then the rules are different. Doesn't the citizen need to know which it is?

45 posted on 11/21/2007 12:16:06 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Kirkwood
Happened to a Boy Scout in Maryland a few years back. The local cop tells the kid to get out of the car (he was a passenger). The FBI hotshot then shoots the kid in the face for disobeying his order, whatever it might have been.

They driver (a female) and the kid were not actually wanted by anybody. They were stopped because their car might look like the car driven by a bandit of some sort.

Someday that Boy Scout get sa free cop-kill ~ I can just hear his dramatic appeal to the court ~ "they created this irrational fear in me". The jury will let him walk.

That's another reason cops have to be careful ~ they really can't afford to make too many enemies.

46 posted on 11/21/2007 12:16:13 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: PAR35

As former cop, you are FOS. Cuff him, jail time, tow the vehicle when the wife could drive.


47 posted on 11/21/2007 12:16:25 PM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: Sopater

What’s really important here is that the government revenue raisers be allowed to go about the business of extorting money from the sheeple unhindered.


48 posted on 11/21/2007 12:16:26 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (I am a proud anti-invasion racist!)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
This case was compounded when the officer requested the individual to leave his vehicle, the individual walked away from the officer and the individual did not comply with the officer. He made repeated demands to be advised of his rights, but the officer had no obligation to tell him that he was under arrest at that time.

The guy didn't start walking back to his car until the officer pointed the taser at him. I think that it was more of a fear reflex. I don't think the guy was going to run. It's not even clear from the video that the guy realized that he was being arrested. He thought he was getting out of the car to show the officer the speed limit sign.

Just a little misunderstanding here.
49 posted on 11/21/2007 12:16:52 PM PST by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Sopater
The officer's conduct has been called into question after a videotape of the incident was posted on YouTube.

I don't know why. In this day and age when cops are getting shot down all over the country by young punks like Massey they can't afford to take chances.

The video is clear. He told the punk to stop and the punk kept walking back to his car. The trooper had no choice but to take some form of action because he didn't know if the punk had a gun under the seat or what.

Tasing seems to be the quickest nonlethal way to diffuse a potentially bad situation. Within seconds of being tased, the punk was talking lucidly, continuing his rant almost nonstop.

50 posted on 11/21/2007 12:18:19 PM PST by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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To: Sopater

The officer didn’t “mirandize” the victim. Sheesh! Also, the officer performed an illegal search so therefore whatever he found wouldn’t be admissible in a court of law.


51 posted on 11/21/2007 12:18:34 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: wolfpat

From experience, I have been pulled over several times in my day. Each time the state trooper, officer, etc has explained my rights and by signing the document (ticket) I was complying to the citation but my signature was not an omission of guilt.

I did not hear or see that in the video from the cop. He told the guy to sign it and when he refused, he told him to get out of the vehicle. He could have explained what most professional officers do.

Kind of a trigger happy taser cop.


52 posted on 11/21/2007 12:19:07 PM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: 1rudeboy

BTW, that’s how deaf people end up getting beat up by cops and guards so often. The officer thinks his target hears him, but he doesn’t. Absent eye contact in these situations, the cop has no justifiable grounds to just sneak up and taser a guy from the rear.


53 posted on 11/21/2007 12:19:36 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: tiger-one

It didn’t show him conducting the stop, or the arrest, in an inapprioriate manner, did it?

He made a statement to another officer of what he thought happened. Unless he swears to it, I don’t see the problem with a faulty recollection that is corrected by the tape.


54 posted on 11/21/2007 12:20:18 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: donna
The cop did the right thing.

The cop told his colleague a story that differed from the actual facts. That argues against his actions being beyond reproach.

55 posted on 11/21/2007 12:20:47 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: lilylangtree

What?

The cop has to read the rights before questioning, not before the arrest.

And the cop has significant latitude in a search after the guy’s behavior. Much more than a Terry or lunge area search.


56 posted on 11/21/2007 12:21:33 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: rogue yam; Pilsner
Yam you got it right. I could have shot 2 teens in the back for an armed robbery [later found to be armed with clubs ie sticks]as they ran away and refused to stop.
57 posted on 11/21/2007 12:21:58 PM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: linn37
How fast was the man traveling anyhow,the cop pulls over so the SUV can go by him and then pulls him over? How does that work?

I was wondering about that too.

58 posted on 11/21/2007 12:22:12 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

His recollection was wrong.
The tape will justify his actions and he hasn’t sworn any statements on that tape.


59 posted on 11/21/2007 12:22:14 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

To protect and serve. Or to hide behind some bushes with your parking lights off waiting for some unsuspecting citizen to slip up. Whatever.


60 posted on 11/21/2007 12:22:16 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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