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Washington Post-ABC News Poll (Fred Thompson surging in Iowa!)
The Washington Post ^ | Tuesday, November 20, 2007

Posted on 11/21/2007 11:56:00 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: ModelBreaker
I'm not convinced the Huckabee phenomenon is going to last and if it doesn't, Fred is moving into a good spot.

And I think it IS a surge considering Fred reversed downward momentum. It means something, and it means something good. It was deemed negatively significant when Fred was polling below 3rd place in Iowa. Not that's he's displaced Rudy for 3rd, it's suddenly not significant to be in 3rd place anymore?

81 posted on 11/21/2007 1:11:06 PM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - President Fred D. Thompson /"The Constitution means what is says.")
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To: Route66
"And I think it IS a surge considering Fred reversed downward momentum. It means something, and it means something good. It was deemed negatively significant when Fred was polling below 3rd place in Iowa. Not that's he's displaced Rudy for 3rd, it's suddenly not significant to be in 3rd place anymore?"

BINGO! WE HAVE A WINNER!!

82 posted on 11/21/2007 1:13:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: Route66
And I think it IS a surge considering Fred reversed downward momentum. It means something, and it means something good. It was deemed negatively significant when Fred was polling below 3rd place in Iowa. Not that's he's displaced Rudy for 3rd, it's suddenly not significant to be in 3rd place anymore?

Well, it's semantics. I would call it moving up a little in the polls. For FT, that's a good thing. But I wouldn't call it a "surge." The use of the term "surge" considerably overstates the actual results of the poll. What we're seeing for Huckabee is what I would call a "surge"--hopefully temporary; but a surge nonetheless.

83 posted on 11/21/2007 1:14:17 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Captain Kirk

I am a Fred supporter, but I agree. If this poll is good for Fred, why is it not tremendous for Huckabee?


84 posted on 11/21/2007 1:14:24 PM PST by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Spiff
Spiff ought to be along any minute now to tell us why this poll is an outlier and doesn't mean anything...

Allow me!

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85 posted on 11/21/2007 1:16:07 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch
Ah, the Mitt Romney CYA campaign net meeting must be over...

What did you guys come up with for covering the Judge, Romney care and Push Polling bits?

86 posted on 11/21/2007 1:20:00 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Mitt Romney, Republican Conservative?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Admin Moderator
FoxNews today is full of reports about Huckabee's Iowa surge, not any alleged surge by Thompson. (And -- it seems obvious to me -- Huckabee's movement is coming directly out of Thompson's soft support.)

Yet, this poster INVENTS a highly subjective headline reflecting his spin of detailed polling numbers...a poster who is in 24x7 spin mode. Maybe this sort of thing is why the Washington Post does not like their stuff posted here...it is being twisted.

This distortion should not stand.

87 posted on 11/21/2007 1:23:27 PM PST by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: traditional1

You seem to believe that it is a bad thing if a candidate can expand the shrinking GOP base (just as Ronald Reagan once did). Why?


88 posted on 11/21/2007 1:27:38 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: SergeiRachmaninov

You’ve been on FR less than six months, yet you demand things? You Mittwits are a funny group, I’ll give you that!


89 posted on 11/21/2007 1:30:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow! Suddenly ABC is a credible poll. Funny how it was not a little while back. This is funny to say the least.


90 posted on 11/21/2007 1:31:35 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: SergeiRachmaninov

FoxNews is all about protecting Giuliani. Huckabee has the LEAST chance of surviving a national campaign and thus he is a useful idiot against Romney and Thompson.

Huckabee is doing the job McCain was originally supposed to do until ronpaul was tapped. Ronpaul is an obvious lunatic, so they tried to revive McCain to no success so the left is now using huckabee as their sacraficial annode.


91 posted on 11/21/2007 1:32:17 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: snarkybob

I’ll ask one more time.
At what point does FDT have to emerge as a frontrunner, or at least alone in 2nd place? I’ve asked this question 3 times so far, and so far, no one has had a comment other than to tell me about Huckabees negatives, or in one case imply that I was trying to rip on FDT. It’s a simple question, at some point FDT has to go out in front and start to pick up momentum. When is that point?


92 posted on 11/21/2007 1:32:32 PM PST by snarkybob
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To: ejonesie22
Ah, the Mitt Romney CYA campaign net meeting must be over...

First I was skeptical but hopeful about Fred.

Then I was disappointed.

Now I am contemptuous...and it is FredHeads, more than Fred himself who have fed my contempt.

You people constantly turn reality on its head and constantly accuse anyone questioning your absurd spin as shilling for other candidates. You FredHeads are the shills without peer.

93 posted on 11/21/2007 1:32:36 PM PST by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A 13-month FReeper calls "newbie" on a 5-monther.

You are absurd.

94 posted on 11/21/2007 1:36:38 PM PST by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: Captain Kirk
Paul's support among the loonatic Left is at least as great right now as his support among conservative Republicans.

They love an anti-war "Republican", and know he couldn't be elected dog-catcher if matched in a race with the Hildabeast. They'll be packing the primaries just as they are at Ron Paul rallies right now.

To compare Ron Paul to Ronald Reagan is akin to comparing the Hildabeast to a woman.


95 posted on 11/21/2007 1:37:13 PM PST by traditional1
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To: SergeiRachmaninov
Whatever Serg, whatever...

I have serious doubts about you ever being a Fred supporter of any type, and you are not the first Mittie to play that game.

Anyways, at least we are not putting a RINO in a Conservative suit and sending him out dancing...

And if you REALLY are or have been neutral you would say the same thing about the Mittwits, and then some. We have never called Anne Romney a whore or posted her next to a stripper picture...

It’s the details Serg, the details...

96 posted on 11/21/2007 1:38:12 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Mitt Romney, Republican Conservative?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know the name, I just recall both an article (I think on Politico, though it could have been a post at someplace like Powerline or Hugh Hewitt) and some discussion here by folks from Iowa at the time of the straw poll about the local talk show guy really pushing Huckabee and that being a big reason for his surprisingly high number of votes in that straw poll. I’d have to go back and try to search for those threads to find it.


97 posted on 11/21/2007 1:40:38 PM PST by Phsstpok (When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring!)
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To: snarkybob

I though Thompson had/has a south carolina strategy.

Huckabee is betting it all on Iowa and NH. (and he is just a useful idiot to prop up Giuliani)

Romney is just outspending everyone.

and Giuliani has the 9/11 and FNC in my pocket strategy. (aka Hanity shine my shoes strategy)

The campaign is all about counting votes and the vote count for a leftist rino Rhodham Giuliani to win requires a divided opposition.


98 posted on 11/21/2007 1:42:38 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Plutarch

ROTFLMAO. That surge pointer is just too funny! Thank you I needed this aftter seeing this nonsense.


99 posted on 11/21/2007 1:43:22 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s a split coming amongst religious voters....the ones that want federalism support Fred, the ones that want a religious nanny state support Huckabee.


100 posted on 11/21/2007 1:43:25 PM PST by DesScorp
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