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Saudis defend punishment for rape victim (Islam's Blaming the Victim)
YahooNews ^ | 11, 21, 2007

Posted on 11/21/2007 9:28:12 AM PST by PRePublic

Saudis defend punishment for rape victim

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - The Saudi judiciary on Tuesday defended a court verdict that sentenced a 19-year-old victim of a gang rape to six months in jail and 200 lashes because she was with an unrelated male when they were attacked.

The Shiite Muslim woman had initially been sentenced to 90 lashes after being convicted of violating Saudi Arabia's rigid Islamic law requiring segregation of the sexes.

But in considering her appeal of the verdict, the Saudi General Court increased the punishment. It also roughly doubled prison sentences for the seven men convicted of raping the woman, Saudi news media said last week.

The reports triggered an international outcry over the Saudis punishing the victim of a terrible crime.

But the Ministry of Justice stood by the verdict Tuesday, saying that "charges were proven" against the woman for having been in a car with a man who was not her relative.

The ministry implied the victim's sentence was increased because she spoke out to the press. "For whoever has an objection on verdicts issued, the system allows an appeal without resorting to the media," said the statement, which was carried on the official Saudi Press Agency.

The attack occurred in 2006. The victim says she was in a car with a male student she used to know trying to retrieve a picture of her. She says two men got into the car and drove them to a secluded area where she was raped by seven men. Her friend also was assaulted.

Justice in Saudi Arabia is administered by a system of religious courts according to the kingdom's strict interpretation of Islamic law.

Judges have wide discretion in punishing criminals, rules of evidence are vague and sometimes no defense lawyer is present. The result, critics say, are sentences left to the whim of judges. A rapist, for instance, could receive anywhere from a light sentence to death.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack avoided directly criticizing the Saudi judiciary over the case, but said the verdict "causes a fair degree of surprise and astonishment."

"It is within the power of the Saudi government to take a look at the verdict and change it," McCormack said.

Canada's minister for women's issues, Jose Verger, has called the sentence "barbaric."

The New York-based Human Rights Watch said the verdict "not only sends victims of sexual violence the message that they should not press charges, but in effect offers protection and impunity to the perpetrators."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071121/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saudi_rape


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blamingthevictim; islam; korananimals; rape; rop; saudiarabia; wahabbism
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1 posted on 11/21/2007 9:28:13 AM PST by PRePublic
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To: PRePublic
we should have attacked Saudi Arabia after 9/11 for sending its home grown terrorists along with Egyptian terrorists on the planes that hit the WTC.

but Mr. Bush has his Globalist agenda doesn't he.

2 posted on 11/21/2007 9:31:06 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Vaquero

You are dead right.


3 posted on 11/21/2007 9:32:17 AM PST by PeterFinn (I'm voting for Tom Tancredo.)
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To: Vaquero
If anyone is talking about a lobby and power it’s the (oil) Saudi Arab lobby that is the Goliath.
4 posted on 11/21/2007 9:32:29 AM PST by PRePublic (Islamic Hamas kidnapped Johnston & then "freed" him)
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To: PRePublic
"Judges have wide discretion in punishing criminals, rules of evidence are vague and sometimes no defense lawyer is present. The result, critics say, are sentences left to the whim of judges. A rapist, for instance, could receive anywhere from a light sentence to death."

Judges who have a 7th Century zeitgeist in a 21st Century world.
5 posted on 11/21/2007 9:34:30 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: Vaquero

I never understood why Saudi Arabia was not held liable as the incubator of terrorism, source for 9/11.


6 posted on 11/21/2007 9:44:26 AM PST by america4vr (The ebb and flow of empires have come and gone but America shall forever reign supreme.)
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To: PRePublic

Isn’t the headline kind of misleading? The way I read it,
it says that the woman was punished for being raped. The
story does not.

Mike


7 posted on 11/21/2007 9:45:42 AM PST by doublecansiter
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I wonder what impact the victim's Shiite beliefs had on the verdict's severity. The virulent antipathy Sunni/Wahabbi have toward Shiite followers knows no bounds.
8 posted on 11/21/2007 9:49:02 AM PST by america4vr (The ebb and flow of empires have come and gone but America shall forever reign supreme.)
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To: PRePublic

The govt is Sunni and this girl is Shiite. One thing we’ve learned is that Sunnis and Shiites don’t like each other. That being said, the islamic religion is totally repressive and a woman can’t expect any type of relief from this horrible religion.


9 posted on 11/21/2007 9:58:02 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: PRePublic

The cricket chirps from American feminists is deafening...


10 posted on 11/21/2007 10:05:15 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: doublecansiter

“Rape” in the headline isn’t a noun describing her charge, it’s an adjective modifying “victim.” The headline doesn’t say what she is being punished for, just that she’s being punished for something, so it’s not inconsistent.

And both the headline and the story make it clear that the Saudis are psychopaths.


11 posted on 11/21/2007 10:16:28 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: PRePublic
I was waiting on getting an oil change and this story comes across on the tv. A black lady sitting next to me says, "Something like that makes me so glad I'm free..."

All I could say was, "Indeed".

12 posted on 11/21/2007 10:17:58 AM PST by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: Vaquero
Mr. Bush has his Globalist agenda doesn't he"

Gotta chip all those new citizens. They're just mexicans! They deserve to be chipped!

13 posted on 11/21/2007 10:56:22 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl! *-0(:~{>)
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To: lilylangtree

Saudi Arabia is a very evil place, and they will have much to answer to God for abusing and misleading so many people.
I do not think that Islam should be classed as a religion for it has NO basis in truth.


14 posted on 11/21/2007 1:42:57 PM PST by tessalu
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To: dennisw; watchin; VOA; timestax; xJones; justshutupandtakeit; TopDog2; ThomasMore; Publius6961; ...
The Saudi judiciary on Tuesday defended a court verdict that sentenced a 19-year-old victim of a gang rape to six months in jail and 200 lashes because she was with an unrelated male when they were attacked.

Islam-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

15 posted on 11/24/2007 2:29:08 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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Islams blaming the victim, sounds like progressive liberalism to me. Next we will hear that the perp is troubled and will be excused. No wonder they are behind these murderer rapist terrorists, the same ideology
16 posted on 11/24/2007 2:32:19 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Id rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
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To: Larry Lucido; doublecansiter
"The Saudi judiciary on Tuesday defended a court verdict that sentenced a 19-year-old victim of a gang rape to six months in jail and 200 lashes because she was with an unrelated male when they were attacked."


She is being punished for being with an unrelated male.
IIRC, the girls aren't supposed to be with any male other then a family member.
So...according to the Saudis, she not only deserved to be raped, she needed punishing, too.


"And both the headline and the story make it clear that the Saudis are psychopaths."


On that, you are abosulutely right!

17 posted on 11/24/2007 2:37:50 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: knighthawk

Stupid Saudis.
I wonder if they will ever rid themselves
of their seventh century mentality?

Thanks, knighthawk!


18 posted on 11/24/2007 2:39:21 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: america4vr
"I never understood why Saudi Arabia was not held liable as the incubator of terrorism, source for 9/11."

I believe that can be answered with a single three letter word that starts with "o" and ends with "l".

19 posted on 11/24/2007 2:41:42 PM PST by joebuck
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To: PRePublic

And these are our “friends” in the Middle East?


20 posted on 11/24/2007 2:47:51 PM PST by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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