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The Iraq Movie Flop
New York Sun ^ | November 21, 2007 | Kevin Hssett

Posted on 11/21/2007 8:49:44 AM PST by Zakeet

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To: hsalaw
>"They want their soldiers to be heros who overcome adversity and kick jihadi a**, and their government to support them. "

America *___* Yeah!
Here to save the *________* day yeah!

21 posted on 11/21/2007 9:06:25 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl! *-0(:~{>)
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To: rwgal

Arn’t the “Hollywood” types the one’s that we used to beat the crap out of in high school

They would be the ones - the ones who still brought their sippy cups to lunch in high school.


22 posted on 11/21/2007 9:06:34 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: Zakeet

(at the Beverly Hills pool)
Tom: “Hey Bob, nice alligator shoes!”
Redford: “But I’m barefoot.”
Tom: “Uh, never mind.”


23 posted on 11/21/2007 9:08:48 AM PST by tumblindice
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To: Zakeet

“it supports one of the key liberal narratives of our times”

Maybe the public doesn’t want to see the movie because it’s sick of Hollywood’s elitist propaganda. Anything Redford does makes my list of ‘avoid at all costs’.


24 posted on 11/21/2007 9:12:14 AM PST by Spok
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To: xsrdx

I disagree with you. Both standard Hollywood drivel written, directed and acted by typical Hollywood liberals. “Apocalypse Now” shows our soldiers taking drugs and killing civilians, portrayed their leadership as underhanded and corrupt, and had its supposed hero “go native” with degenerate tribesmen with drug-like artsy filming to illustrate this. “Deer Hunter” didn’t even show any combat, just a bunch of Russian roulette, which I’m sure no one on any side was really playing in that war, and lots of boring scenes illustrating the strange ways of this community of Russian immigrants in the mountains somewhere.


25 posted on 11/21/2007 9:12:16 AM PST by onward_xtian_soldier (God Bless America! America Bless God!)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Good one!.....


26 posted on 11/21/2007 9:14:53 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: onward_xtian_soldier

‘Apocalypse Now’ was co-written by noted conservative John Milius based on Heart of Darkness which is certainly not drivel.


27 posted on 11/21/2007 9:15:05 AM PST by Borges
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To: Zakeet
"The Robert Redford movie "Lions for Lambs" has been a box-office disappointment."

That's probably due to the fact that it sucks. As does everyone involved in it.

Plus the vast majority of Americans have caught on to the leftist media agenda, are sick and tired of Hollyweird Marxists in general, and are more and more simply tuning it out.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

28 posted on 11/21/2007 9:15:53 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: onward_xtian_soldier

I thought the Incredibles was a good mix of heroism that was pushed under by political correctness until crisis reawakened the need and am still waiting for the sequel!


29 posted on 11/21/2007 9:16:37 AM PST by princess leah
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To: onward_xtian_soldier

I agree with you. The Deer Hunter was probably one of the weirdest movies I have ever seen. I never really understood it when I saw it, and still don’t really understand the appeal having seen it again. To me it was a really boring and weird movie that was just plain creepy.


30 posted on 11/21/2007 9:17:02 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: Zakeet
Redford's film flop is just another indication that despite the Mass Media's and DNCs best attempts, the American people are not nearly as "tired" or "fed up" with the effort in Iraq as those people are, or as those people hope the American public is.

Sort of like the election in 2004 where all of these same issues were vetted and the American people rose up and put Bush back at the helm.

As to this author's own blatant agenda...

"The war has been, after all, terribly mismanaged."

No, it has not. We defeated the fifth largest Army in the world handily, we completed the quickest, march to a distant capitol in history, we established an interim government and handed over soveriegnty to the Iraqi people ahead of schedule, the Iraqi people elected their own government (remember all of those purple fingers?) despite threats from terrorists to the contrary, the Iraqi people created their own constitution, the Iraqi people voted for their own leaders under that new constitution, the Iraqi people are flocking to and joining their own military despite large casualties...and continue to do so, the combined efforts of our own military and its surge and the growing, effective Iraqi militayr is defeating the insurgents and Al Quida.

Does not sound like mismangement to me...just sounds like a hard, dangerous, and more-drawn-out process than we contemplated on the front end...but one we have responded to and managemed towards victory.

31 posted on 11/21/2007 9:17:41 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Zakeet

I was looking at something on my DVR from before this movie was released and an ad came on for it claiming it was the most anticipated movie of the year even though I had never heard of it until after it flopped.

Maybe they meant it was the movie Americans couldn’t wait to be a flop by “most anticipated?” Those of us who had actually heard of it before the release, that is.


32 posted on 11/21/2007 9:18:00 AM PST by Duke Nukum (He burns at the center of time and he sees the turn of the Universe.)
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To: Zakeet
The reason this movie flopped is because it is as implausable a story as Robert Redford's last big flop, The Last Castle.

The Last Castle was about Redford as a court-martialled General who rallies the other prisoners to fight against a corrupt military prison system. It contained painfully stereotypical personalities. Redford as the calm, reasonable, and liberal General who refused an "illegal order" and was sentenced to prison. And an overbearing, tyranical, and sadistic Colonel who runs the max security military prison with an iron fist and no compassion for his charges.

So fake, and yet so left view of the world, that it flopped at the box office.

Ditto Lions for Lambs. It portrays Redford as a 60's Hippie-turn-College Professor railing against an unjust war in his classroom, Cruise as an ambitious, presidental candidate Senator who wants to win the War on Terror at all costs, and Meryl Streep as the reporterette who struggles over the moral dilemma of whether to write a story about Cruise's plans to win the war that she hates so much.

As movie writer Roger L. Simpn put it: Hix Nix Peacenik Pix.

33 posted on 11/21/2007 9:18:23 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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I think the movie may actually be good. I see some really good actors listed. The point it, people were invested one way or another regarding the Vietnam War, so the war movies were popular. Today, the antiwar movement is vocal, but large numbers of people aren't buying it, especially when we see some sign of success. And by and large, most are proud of our military, and the anti-Iraq war hysterics don’t get much credence outside of the ‘true believers,’ thanks to those of you who take the time to stand up for our troops and their mission.
34 posted on 11/21/2007 9:19:01 AM PST by ArmyTeach (Our soldiers - my heroes)
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To: Zakeet

Sooner or later you would think a studio would want to make money and make a positive war on terror movie.
God knows we have enough heroes, victory, sacrifice and glory to tell stories about.


35 posted on 11/21/2007 9:20:57 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Zakeet

That other Iraq film with Samuel Jackson and Jessica Biel is also a circle of liberals rubbing one anothers’ foreskins.
Got through about 15 minutes, waste of time.


36 posted on 11/21/2007 9:24:02 AM PST by tumblindice
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To: rawcatslyentist

One of my all time favorite movies! Gross, vulgar, profane, and absolutely hilarious.


37 posted on 11/21/2007 9:24:20 AM PST by hsalaw
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To: Joe Brower
That's probably due to the fact that it sucks. As does everyone involved in it.

LOL! In two sentences you described the situation perfectly!

38 posted on 11/21/2007 9:25:36 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: princess leah
The Incredibles is one of the best animated films ever! Right up there with my traditional favorite, Lady & The Tramp!
39 posted on 11/21/2007 9:27:20 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: tumblindice
Jessica Biel

What's it rated? Could be worth it.

40 posted on 11/21/2007 9:29:25 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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