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I received this e-mail of a piece by Don Feder on our demographic demise. I think it is necessary reading as we are not too far behind.
1 posted on 11/20/2007 9:13:56 AM PST by Cacique
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2 posted on 11/20/2007 9:15:04 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique

This is an interesting subject to me.

On one hand, I agree with it.

On the other hand, the people who ARE having children at the highest concentrations are people who we, as fans of Western Civilization, feel should NOT be having kids.

The people who should, aren’t. The Muslimification and the Povertification of the world is what we are seeing and it concerns me.

Now, before this turns into a “ban birth control” thread, I don’t advocate that as a solution, either...because unwanted children of single mothers tend NOT to become productive members of society (not really true if born to married parents.) In our case we’d find most of these to be unmarried mothers. I’m NOT trashing single parents as I know some great ones, I’m just saying that, in general, kids in single-parent households do not fare as well.


4 posted on 11/20/2007 9:20:49 AM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: Cacique
Don Feder and Steve Ozment are two of my favorite people.

I saw Don speak at a pro-family, anti queer marriage, rally on Boston Common he is powerful. I probably have six or eight books by Ozment on the Reformation, an outstanding author and historian.

7 posted on 11/20/2007 9:40:20 AM PST by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: Cacique
The title of this article is "How to Take the Chill Out of Demographic Winter".

There were pages of stastics for countries all over the world, but DID HE EVER PROVIDE AN ANSWER? I didn't see it.

8 posted on 11/20/2007 9:44:40 AM PST by willgolfforfood
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To: Cacique
Mark Steyn was the first to broach the subject. A civilization without offspring is a civilization headed for extinction. There is a clear divide between those believe in God and those who reject Him. Those who believe in God believe in the future. Those who reject Him live for the present. Now who do you think leaves behind something of significance for the future? It brings to mind the old cliche "our children are our future." Its more than a cliche, for our children are a true treasure, a form of civilizational immortality. Demographic winter is not good for ourselves or for what will follow after us. The question is what are we going to do about it. If we do not do anything, there is no future to speak of. The hour is late.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 11/20/2007 9:56:14 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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a world with baptism ceremonies for kittens,

I'll go back and read the rest now, but this part brought a hilarious image to mind.

14 posted on 11/20/2007 10:03:03 AM PST by NeoCaveman ("Don't doubt me" - El Rushbo, alternative tagline: Hunter/Pissant 2008)
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Wow! I’m speechless. I have been familiar with many of these ideas for some time, but this really puts it all together. Thanks for posting!


15 posted on 11/20/2007 10:14:24 AM PST by cvq3842
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In Israel orthodox Jews are having large families, secular Jews are having few if any. In this country it’s the same story, in one or two generations, there will be no secular Jews remaining. Only a powerful faith can cause people to swim against the tide of modernity (affluence, technology and ‘liberation’).


16 posted on 11/20/2007 10:36:35 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer (Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese.)
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Great speech; thanks for posting


19 posted on 11/20/2007 11:01:45 AM PST by Stingray51
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To: Cacique
Excellent article. Thanks for posting.

Actually, I thought the movie “Children of Men” was pretty good and worth seeing, despite the violence and the ubiquitous use of the “F” word”. It is very dark, but life affirming. I haven’t read the novel, but as usually is the case, would assume that it is better than the movie.

Another movie that is related to this issue but portrays it in a more humorous vein is “Idiocracy”, a delightful Mike Judge film. Imagine a future populated by the guests of the Jerry Springer show and you will get the idea of what happens when the people who shouldn’t be having children procreate a lot while the people who should be having a lot, don’t.

20 posted on 11/20/2007 11:08:17 AM PST by Nevadan (nevadan)
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The intrusive nanny state is another reason why many people in developed nations are choosing not to have children. When parents fear that giving a well-deserved spanking to an unruly kid can land them in jail and the kid in state custody, it certainly gives pause.


21 posted on 11/20/2007 12:39:07 PM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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PING!


23 posted on 11/20/2007 3:13:20 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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James poses an intriguing question: What would it be like to live in a world that had no future? Try to imagine a world where, for more than a decade, no one had heard a child laugh (other than on old television shows) or saw children at play -- a world where frustrated maternal love is lavished on expensive dolls, a world with baptism ceremonies for kittens, a world where mass suicides are arranged for the elderly (because there's no one to care for them), a world where people are quickly losing interest in sex because sex no longer has an ultimate meaning, a world where fatalism, boredom and ennui are universal.

Yeah... I've been to The Bay Area and I live near Santa Fe:

Lots of weird old cat women, but they hate God too much to baptise a kitten--maybe a Wiccan ceremony....

27 posted on 11/23/2007 3:00:13 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (Peace Through Light)
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