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"My Books Are About Killing God"-Snopes Confirms Golden Compass Emails
Snopes ^ | 11-19-07 | self

Posted on 11/19/2007 2:13:49 PM PST by icwhatudo

We all get "those" emails from time to time-the ones making claims that are meant to be passed on. We've learned to check things on sites like snopes.com to make sure what we pass is true. When it comes to the movie The Golden Compass, whats going around is...true

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: antichristian; atheism; boxofficebomb; brainwashing; compass; enjoythevoid; evangelicalathiests; golden; goldencompass; hollywood; pullman; snopes
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To: Ingtar

It sounds like an excellent learning opportunity about deception and temptation. My view is that it is always better to teach my children to deal with adversity than to shield them from it (an impossibility)...


61 posted on 11/19/2007 3:29:31 PM PST by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: Kellis91789

once you are sucked in, logic doesn’t matter anymore and it is very difficult to get out. This is the case on a national level in North Korea. The Koreans have perfected the art of brainwashing to a science.


62 posted on 11/19/2007 3:31:15 PM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: Kellis91789
You mean your values.

Who else's values would you suggest he teach his kids?

63 posted on 11/19/2007 3:32:03 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell

well you can have your kids raised by wolves or locked in a Romanian orphanage...


64 posted on 11/19/2007 3:33:20 PM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: Ingtar

Thanks for spoiling the plot and exposing this corrupt bildge that could corrupt our children’s hearts.

We will stick with LOTR/NARNIA. Even Harry pottery creeps me out...


65 posted on 11/19/2007 3:34:26 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: ari-freedom

good pt.


66 posted on 11/19/2007 3:35:20 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Dead Corpse
One of the problems today is that everyone is so danged worried about what everyone else is doing that they may not like. Worry about your own kids first.

And a big old bump to that. We won't be seeing the movie. I don't give my money knowingly to folks I disagree with. Too many other good options out there to waste my money on something I don't like. :-)

67 posted on 11/19/2007 3:37:01 PM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: Kellis91789
I take it you don’t think this is an idea worth exploring with your kids ?

No. It is an idea to explore with adults, who can distinguish between heresy and gospel, and who have had some real life experience in order to put the lie to moral relativism.

If your kids are intellectually advanced enough to understand the temptation of Eve and its array of implications, then they might be advanced enough to recognize that Pullman is using the same ploy as the Serpent. Most kids are not, because they don't yet get the full implications of the Fruit of Knowledge or Satan's lie about what it would bring. They just see that Pullman is telling them that the Authority Figure is stealing their birthright.

Just because an idea exists doesn't mean it is worthy of "exploration with your kids". That's the same justification that is used by the purveyors of moral relativism to push their adult agenda on our schools, from homosexual activism to anti-patriotism to sexual libertine-ism to radical feminism to cultural equivalence. The reason this agitprop is targeted at kids and pre-teens is precisely because they are not yet emotionally or intellectually equipped to resist the manipulation. Propaganda is most effective on the pubescent.

68 posted on 11/19/2007 3:38:12 PM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: fooman
Even Harry pottery creeps me out...

I can find good things in Harry Potter. This was exceptional in that it had so little to offset the themes. Though I'm really curious how they will handle one anti-heroic death in the first movie, I'll pass.

69 posted on 11/19/2007 3:38:17 PM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his Lacking Decisive Stands.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Its more like, why would I put money in their god-hating pockets?


70 posted on 11/19/2007 3:38:53 PM PST by TheGunny (Re-read 1&2 Corinthians)
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To: Kellis91789
You mean your values.

That's usually what we try to pass on to our children.

That’s called indoctrination, or brain-washing, even if well-intended.

Sound like something Hillary would say.

71 posted on 11/19/2007 3:39:13 PM PST by Hacksaw (Appalachian by the grace of God - Montani Semper Liberi)
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To: LexBaird

Aces!


72 posted on 11/19/2007 3:40:27 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Ingtar

Dumbledoorknob is gay. That did it for me. Many Catholics and freepers warned me.

I thought they were being too stiff.

I was wrong.


73 posted on 11/19/2007 3:42:04 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: icwhatudo

Lord of the Rings and the Narnia books are both overtly Christian books, written by Oxford Dons who were trying to convey Christian ideas and ideals largely without mentioning any specific religious names or history. They were part of a group that called themselves the Inklings. There is a fairly large body of evidence (including her own statements) that J. K. Rowling was trying to continue that tradition with the Harry Potter books.

The guy who wrote these books is an anti-Inkling, trying to tear down Christian ideas and ideals and specifically intending to bring about the downfall of any Christian church, but most specifically the Catholic church, as I understand it.


74 posted on 11/19/2007 3:43:13 PM PST by Phsstpok (When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring!)
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To: icwhatudo

People have been trying to kill God for over 2000 years.....


75 posted on 11/19/2007 3:44:50 PM PST by Hi Heels (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult)
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To: Dead Corpse

I’ve always observed whenever somebody uses the argument, ‘my faith is so strong that i don’t have to acknowledge God’, or ‘if your faith is so weak as being able to consume blasphemous materials without harm’, etc, that the person using such an argument has missed out on faith along time ago and does little to live by faith through Christ.


76 posted on 11/19/2007 3:44:58 PM PST by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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To: Cvengr

Just curious about the “its good to see the other side” types...are you planing on seeing “Redacted” as well?


77 posted on 11/19/2007 4:05:40 PM PST by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: icwhatudo
Ted Baehr has a great review out on it called "An atheist's 'Narnia' knockoff."

On Dec. 7, 2007, the movie "The Golden Compass," based on the first book in the fantasy trilogy entitled "His Dark Materials" by atheist Philip Pullman will be released in theaters throughout the world. Pullman wrote his fantasy trilogy because he was so upset by the Christian evangelism of C.S. Lewis in his wonderful series of Christian tales entitled "The Chronicles Of Narnia." Pullman is an avowed atheist who has dedicated his life to undermining Christianity and the Church among young readers. The film's release is only another example of a culture spiraling away from faith, a culture into which we must step in and declare truth.

Pullman represents God as a decrepit and perverse angel in his novels, who captures the dead in a "prison camp" afterlife.
78 posted on 11/19/2007 4:14:21 PM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: Kellis91789

“Indoctrination” is a GOOD THING if the doctrine is the Truth.

And, given the detritus that tends to flow out of the common social discourse, I observe that most human brains are in need of a thorough washing.


79 posted on 11/19/2007 4:17:25 PM PST by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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To: ari-freedom

Really ? No discussion about how that arbitrary collection of chemicals can feel pain just as he does, and can also strike back at him ?


80 posted on 11/19/2007 4:23:00 PM PST by Kellis91789 (Liberals aren't atheists. They worship government -- including human sacrifices.)
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