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Ron Paul is a Useful Man for Democrats
American Thinker ^ | 11-19-07 | Andrew Walden

Posted on 11/19/2007 10:49:55 AM PST by SJackson

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To: billbears

So you WOULD undo 200 years of American government. And here we’ve been paying congress, presidents, and judges all those years...

You want to undo so much in one fell swoop. Perhaps it would be better to put all your energy into electing a stong conservative congress with a backbone and a 60% majority to straighten out the places where our laws have turned out poorly.


61 posted on 11/20/2007 8:44:05 AM PST by Martins kid
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To: InterceptPoint

“Are the Clinton’s up to their old tricks?”

If so, then they’ve infiltrated Free Republic.


62 posted on 11/20/2007 8:51:09 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Martins kid

BUMP!


63 posted on 11/20/2007 8:52:23 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1
It’s one thing to run a positive campaign that supports your candidate, but it’s quite another when you spend all your time attempting to derail another candidate....Ron Paul supporters and spammers have absolutely no class at all. They suk big time.

That's true, I've noted that relative to their internet tactics and questionable/illegal placing of signs in various states.

Remember they're not Republicans, so bashing the GOP is part of the dance. Paul himself says the party, like the government, has been hijacked (an act of coercion, theft, and or violence) by neocons

A classic example, his jews4ronpaul fiasco, a group started and financed by a progressive Democrat, a self described Jewish, Unitarian, Quaker whatever that is, booted from the Libertarian Party under a cloud of questionable financial dealings, and what does the group do?

Sell T Shirts and bash the Republican Jewish Coalition. Well, that's what progressive Dems do, but it's a scam to do it under the false pretense of Republicanism.

Do his FR supporters join in, you bet, noting that there aren’t enough Jewish Republicans around to worry about the RJC. Of course there are apparently enough anti-war Jewish voters for their fake organization to go after, an admission that they’re not pursuing Republican voters.

64 posted on 11/20/2007 9:03:18 AM PST by SJackson (seems to me it is entirely proper to start a Zionist State around Jerusalem, T Roosevelt, neocon)
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To: SJackson; All

Another thing they do is attach Ron Paul’s name to positive articles about other candidates, so if you click on the article, you’re dragging Ron Paul with you. I’ve had it. Last night, they google-bombed Fred Thompson blogs by creating a negative Thompson article, then bombing it until it replaced a positive article. They must have inserted at least 10 negative articles. I’m only one person. I can’t fight the Ron Paul spam by myself.


65 posted on 11/20/2007 9:15:46 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: SJackson

Ron Paul Freaks at Anti War Rally

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V6Xv4gR66A

Ron Paul booth at Hempfest in Seattle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG0VLnTOzNw


66 posted on 11/20/2007 9:15:46 AM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: SJackson; All
I’m stymied by the collaboration between the Ron Paul Cult and the Loony Left.
67 posted on 11/20/2007 9:25:56 AM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr

When Paul spammers shut down messages that other candidates are trying to get out, then they are deliberately shutting down free speech. Ron Paul is working to subvert our 1st Amendment rights.


68 posted on 11/20/2007 10:00:01 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

“Ron Paul supporters are campaigning heavily against Fred Thompson by creating fake websites that bad-mouth and deride Fred. They create a site, then google-bomb it to push all positive articles and official Fred websites off into Google netherland so that they won’t be seen.”

Hillary tactics!


69 posted on 11/20/2007 10:12:07 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: sageb1
“Are the Clinton’s up to their old tricks?”

If so, then they’ve infiltrated Free Republic.

True enough. But I wouldn't want to have to pay a $1 to every Freeper who foolishly voted for Ross Perot. It would break me.

70 posted on 11/20/2007 10:19:12 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: SJackson

I just noticed that you registered at the RINO forum and are posting your anti-Paul stuff there. Much more receptive audience over there. I wonder why?


71 posted on 11/20/2007 10:29:54 AM PST by jmc813 (.) (.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
the Federal Reserve is part of the US government

Ummmm...you might want to double check on that.

72 posted on 11/20/2007 10:40:57 AM PST by jmc813 (.) (.)
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To: jmc813
I just noticed that you registered at the RINO forum and are posting your anti-Paul stuff there. Much more receptive audience over there. I wonder why?

Then you're way behind the curve, I've been registered there since they started, lots of posters I like there.

Paulbots whine about that a lot, being essentially bankrupt beyond personal attack.

I've posted at Liberty Post too. And other forums.

Don't like it, tough.

73 posted on 11/20/2007 10:44:01 AM PST by SJackson (seems to me it is entirely proper to start a Zionist State around Jerusalem, T Roosevelt, neocon)
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To: George W. Bush
These third-rate bloggers are getting kind of shrill, methinks.

I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that pretty much anyone that "blogs", even whom I agree with 100%, suffer from serious douchiness.

74 posted on 11/20/2007 10:45:09 AM PST by jmc813 (.) (.)
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To: april15Bendovr
I’m stymied by the collaboration between the Ron Paul Cult and the Loony Left.

Anti-war, bring the troops home now.

America sucks, it's a colonial power.

Those are their two top issues. It makes to sense to me.

75 posted on 11/20/2007 10:46:00 AM PST by SJackson (seems to me it is entirely proper to start a Zionist State around Jerusalem, T Roosevelt, neocon)
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To: sageb1

“When Paul spammers shut down messages that other candidates are trying to get out, then they are deliberately shutting down free speech. Ron Paul is working to subvert our 1st Amendment rights.”

Glenn Beck in this You Tube video talks about the Ron Paul Cult crashing the web polls giving Ron Paul 95% of the vote.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUpPsts1DYk

Glenn Beck hits on a lot of points made at this thread


76 posted on 11/20/2007 10:48:43 AM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: jmc813
Ummmm...you might want to double check on that.

[Sarcasm] Oh, I'm sorry, it's a private corporation of evil Jewish International Bankers whose chairman is nominated by the US President, confirmed by the US Congress, reports regularly to that Congress, and whose profits are turned over to the US Treasury every year. My bad!

Now if only we would nationalize all the banks, that would strike a blow against Judaeo-Bolshevism from which it would never recover! Oh, and then the mint could print worthless paper money, but since we wouldn't be borrowing from the Elders of Zion we'd be home free! Then we could declare war on Israel and make the world a utopia!

Hey . . . how come Hamilton and Washington supported a real private central bank in 1791 if it was so "unconstitutional?"

77 posted on 11/20/2007 10:50:19 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Lo' Ya`aqov ye'amer `od shimkha ki-'im Yisra'el; ki-sariyta `im-'Eloqim ve`im-'anashim vatukhal.)
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To: sageb1
Another thing they do is attach Ron Paul’s name to positive articles about other candidates, so if you click on the article, you’re dragging Ron Paul with you. I’ve had it. Last night, they google-bombed Fred Thompson blogs by creating a negative Thompson article, then bombing it until it replaced a positive article. They must have inserted at least 10 negative articles. I’m only one person. I can’t fight the Ron Paul spam by myself.

They're thoroughly dishonest, the examples abound.

You'll note a number of articles, and I think a thread, about Paul winning a Zogby thread, who I suspect is somewhat sympathetic as Paul was tho only one to attend his Dearborn meeting. Note his release, Paul's last amongst Republicans, first when you include Dems and independents.

Survey pits resumes of former New York mayor against those of Mitt Romney, Ron Paul, and Fred Thompson

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1391

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, long the favorite in nationwide samples of likely Republican voters in the 2008 race for the party's presidential nomination, has the strongest resume of four top contenders, a new Zogby International survey shows.

The telephone survey, known as a “blind bio” poll because likely voters are given details of the candidates’ resumes without their names attached, shows Giuliani wins 34% support, compared to 22% each for Thompson and Romney. Ron Paul, who has surged recently in polls and has a significant online following, came in last with 13% support, while 9% said they were undecided on the question.

Only those four candidates were included in the question, which was commissioned by Jones Productions, a media company based in Austin, Texas. The survey included 389 likely Republican primary or caucus voters and was conducted Nov. 14–17, 2007. It carries a margin of error of +/– 5.1 percentage points.

The blind bio question was also posed to a larger pool of 1,009 likely voters nationwide, including Democrats and independents, and Paul was the big winner among that universe of voters, winning 33%, compared to 19% for Giuliani, 15% for Romney, and 13% for Thompson.

The results of the of the likely Republican primary voters can be found here:

http://www.zogby.com/x-Zogby Special Jones Productions 11-20-2007.pdf

For a complete methodological statement, please visit: http://www.zogby.com/methodology/readmeth.dbm?ID=1235


78 posted on 11/20/2007 10:53:49 AM PST by SJackson (seems to me it is entirely proper to start a Zionist State around Jerusalem, T Roosevelt, neocon)
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To: SJackson; George W. Bush; Extremely Extreme Extremist
Then you're way behind the curve, I've been registered there since they started, lots of posters I like there.

Likewise with me. Ever since the douchebag brigade (Gonzales, CWOJackson, Harry Hutchison, Poohbah, etc.) had a bitchfit and stomped away, the likability of that site has gone way up.

Paulbots whine about that a lot, being essentially bankrupt beyond personal attack.

I was just pointing out that on the moderate board, everyone agrees with your anti-Paul posts. Here on FR, which is a much more conservative forum, you have substantial rebuttals to your Paul posts, making my point that liberal/moderate Republicans are the core of the anti-Paul movement, while the conservative Paul detractors are on the fringe. Surely you noticed the disproportionate amount of Rudy supporters I've pointed out showing up on Paul threads over the last few days?

79 posted on 11/20/2007 10:54:08 AM PST by jmc813 (.) (.)
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To: sageb1

I have been saying that the Left has already been here for some time now. It’s definitely going on. Just READ some of the asinine crap that is being posted supposedly for Ron Paul - which is really against other candidates. Look at some of the anti-anyone-but-Paul and you will see the Left, anarchists and “libertarians” (which truly are at their worst, anarchists) at work here.


80 posted on 11/20/2007 10:55:37 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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