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To: ellery
I’m not being argumentative, just sincerely asking: what’s the alternative in your mind? Build up enough judges on the Supreme Court to re-interpret the fourteenth amendment?

We're talking about the choice of a President. The "alternative" is to elect one who understands and advocates for unalienable rights, and who will keep his sworn oath of office.

105 posted on 11/18/2007 10:39:19 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Our God-given rights, and those of our posterity, are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: EternalVigilance
We're talking about the choice of a President. The "alternative" is to elect one who understands and advocates for unalienable rights, and who will keep his sworn oath of office.

Okay. But if our Founders had done that re: slavery, our country and Constitution would probably not exist.

I can't assert this with certainty, of course, since it's impossible to predict the "what-ifs. It may be that our Constitution would have been ratified years later than it was, but that we would have avoided the Civil War (Given the grasp of history that shines through your posts, I suspect you've read "What If?").

It's still a fact, though, that even our Founders turned to state-based incrementalism in order to deal with issues that are unquestionably unalienable rights, but that the nation was too divided to deal with federally. It's possible they were wrong to do so; but the fact that they did tells me that an incremental, state-centered approach to abortion is in line with what they might do were they here today.

211 posted on 11/19/2007 8:49:55 PM PST by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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