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To: EternalVigilance
We're talking about the choice of a President. The "alternative" is to elect one who understands and advocates for unalienable rights, and who will keep his sworn oath of office.

Okay. But if our Founders had done that re: slavery, our country and Constitution would probably not exist.

I can't assert this with certainty, of course, since it's impossible to predict the "what-ifs. It may be that our Constitution would have been ratified years later than it was, but that we would have avoided the Civil War (Given the grasp of history that shines through your posts, I suspect you've read "What If?").

It's still a fact, though, that even our Founders turned to state-based incrementalism in order to deal with issues that are unquestionably unalienable rights, but that the nation was too divided to deal with federally. It's possible they were wrong to do so; but the fact that they did tells me that an incremental, state-centered approach to abortion is in line with what they might do were they here today.

211 posted on 11/19/2007 8:49:55 PM PST by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: ellery
Bad example. Slavery was the original sin of the founders, one which festered for more than half a century, before it bathed the nation in blood, and nearly consumed the republic. They should have done whatever it took to root it out from the beginning, for no other reason than that they knew it was a violation of the principles they had laid down. They should have known that the price to their posterity for avoiding the accomplishment of justice would be too horrible for words.

But abortion has already killed far more Americans.

You think God might call that to account?

"Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether." - President Abraham Lincoln, Second Inaugural Address

212 posted on 11/19/2007 9:04:36 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Our God-given rights, and those of our posterity, are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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