Posted on 11/17/2007 6:56:56 PM PST by camerakid400
Memo to: Ron Paul supporters
Subject: Your e-mails
Okay, enough is enough. Like every other journalist in America, and who knows, maybe the world or even the universe, I've been deluged with your letters and e-mails. So I've done as you asked and taken a closer look at your candidate. Here is what I've found:
1. Ron Paul is inconsistent. Though he calls himself a man of principle and is apparently admired as such by his ardent fans, his principles seem somewhat elastic. He rails against the Bush administration for its supposed assault on civil liberties, yet when he was asked at one of the debates whether Scooter Libby deserved a pardon, he said no. "He doesn't deserve one because he was instrumental in leading the Congress and the people to support a war that we didn't need to be in." Notice that he didn't say it was because Libby was guilty of committing a crime. No, because Libby argued for a policy with which Paul disagreed, he deserved to serve time in prison. Ron Paul, the libertarian, who presumably values liberty above all, is willing to deprive someone else of his because of a policy disagreement?
2. Ron Paul is historically challenged. He argues that by embracing isolationism, he fits within a Republican tradition stretching back to Eisenhower "who stopped the Korean War" and including Nixon "who stopped the war in Vietnam." Let's recap. Eisenhower threatened to use nuclear weapons against China. It was the Eisenhower administration that had a hand in toppling Iran's Mohammad Mossedegh (an intervention that Paul has elsewhere cited as causing the U.S. grief 25 years later when the Islamists took power). Eisenhower also intervened in Guatemala, Cuba (planning for the Bay of Pigs began during his tenure) and Lebanon.
Nixon, an isolationist? Most observers, whatever they may make of detente with the USSR and the opening to China, agree that Nixon was an emphatic internationalist. For the record, he intervened in many countries including Chili, Peru and Cambodia. And he saved Israel by resupplying her during the Yom Kippur war. Neither his successes nor failures grew out of a Paulesque policy of "minding our own business."
3. Ron Paul is unserious. Suggesting that you will eliminate the IRS, the CIA, the FBI and other government agencies within weeks of taking office is ridiculous. These are bumper stickers, not serious reform proposals.
4. Ron Paul is too cozy with kooks and conspiracy theorists. As syndicated radio host Michael Medved has pointed out, Ron Paul's newspaper column was carried by the American Free Press (a parent publication of the Hitler-praising Barnes Review). Paul may not have been aware of this. But though invited by Medved to disavow any connection, Paul has so far failed to respond.
Paul has appeared on the Alex Jones radio program not once, not twice, but three times. Jones is the sort who believes that black helicopters are coming to impose a police state on America. He is quite concerned about the Bohemian Grove, the Bilderbergers, the federal election system (it's rigged, of course) and so on. Naturally, he believes that 9/11 was an inside job. Ron Paul has even appeared in a Jones film, "Endgame," the point of which is apparently that the Bilderbergers are plotting to control the world. They've already got Europe (through the European Union) and now are on the verge of securing America by means of a North American union that would unite Mexico, the United States and Canada.
Even if Paul says nothing insane in this film, his appearance alone calls his judgment into question. I have not seen "Endgame," but I have heard a tape of Paul on the Jones program just after the 2006 election. Jones asked the congressman whether the victory for the Democrats wasn't a "rejection of neo-fascist imperialism." Paul replied, "Yeah . . . This was a healthy election as far as I'm concerned."
Ron Paul is the favorite candidate of a number of racist, neo-Nazi and conspiracist websites. While Paul cannot be held accountable for the views of cranks and kooks, he can disavow their support and return their checks. He received $500 from Don Black, the proprietor of Stormfront.org and former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. He has not yet returned it.
Moreover, Paul seems to be playing a sly game with his conspiracy-minded fans. He does not explicitly endorse the crazier theories out there, but he hints at dark forces in the U.S. government threatening our liberties, he inveighs against the "neo-cons" (shorthand for Jews in some circles) and he gives aid and comfort to the paranoid by appearing on their favorite radio shows.
No, Ron Paul is not my candidate. Not for president. He might make a dandy new leader for the Branch Davidians.
Ah, so you don’t want any change then. Hard to keep up with the every changing position of the Paul crowd.
and you just keep avoiding and deflecting the issue of Paul associating with these groups.....
That's laughable. Giuliani dresses in drag for a PARTY and he's referred to as a cross-dresser.
What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Simply put, you lie with dogs, you get fleas.
What's shameful here is that you blow off the evidence that these racists support Paul. You don't have a problem with it because he, according to you, doesn't solicit their support?
That's who you're allied with and it's not a problem because he doesn't solicit their support? He has these guys working his phone banks! They're all over the internet, raising money for him, rallying support behind him, on such "ordinary American" sites as Stormfront and by such "ordinary Americans" as the KKK and David Duke. And you write it off as "Paul doesn't solicit their support"? Bullsh*t, he doesn't.
He accepts their money and he accepts their help in his campaign. He does nothing to discourage their support and his supporters, just like you, poo-poo the fact that he has white supremacists actively involved in his campaign.
Frankly, this says as much about you as it says about Paul.
“Certainly not all who pine for a smaller government are crooks, but all crooks pine for less governmental intrusion into their lives.”
Well put.
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“I ain’t flaming ya, kid. He’s our Dennis Kucinich...”
A Ron Paul vs Dennis Kucinich election would make a great sitcom.
His record? What bill in Congress that Ron Paul wote and was passed in to law is the best on his record?
What has Hillary accomplished?
Does advocating and passing socialist big gov. legislation qualify one as a candidate in todays Republican party? If so, THAT is pathetic and sad. But seems to make a great fit for Romney or Gulianai. How much do you expect a small government conservative to put up with?
It's beyond pathetic and sad, I almost threw up a little when I read his asinine comment about Hillary.
I think it's surreal that some Republicans have unwittingly strayed so far that they'll vote for RINO Giuliani and they have kind words to say about a subversive, thoroughly corrupt, one-worlder witch like Hillary - while at the same time viciously attacking a man who is for limited government, the constitution, our sovereignty, pro-life and pro-liberty.
The bible (as usual) was right when it said a day will come that good will be evil and evil will be good. We're pretty much there, folks.
No, it's fear.
Unreasonable fear of Ron Paul drives these unAmerican anti Paul posts.
Not all of it.
Maybe you should ask the leaders of the democratic party why so many of their members support him.
Maybe you should also ask them why so many Democrats supported Ronald Reagan. :)
Dems love him because his is screwing up the Republican primary process. They WANT him to be a third party so that Hillary will win with a measly 42% like her hubby did. Ron Paul is trouble and should NOT be included in Republican debates. He is off on his own planet.
Loved this line the most.... “Ron Paul is too cozy with kooks and conspiracy theorists.”
Thanks for the ping, sofaman! Always knew the guy was a kook, but thanks for the information. Sometimes it appears the Paul supporters are more of a cult than a group of supporters. I had someone at work ask me who Ron Paul was (being the resident Republican they figured I was the one to ask). I explained that he was sort of the Dennis Kucinich of the Republican party. She was saying she was getting tired of practically being assaulted by his supporters trying to give her fliers and info on him. I don’t think the things you point out were in the fliers. Reading some of them it appears perhaps comparing him to Kucinich may be an insult to Kucinich!
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/d?d110:100:./temp/~bdRlcJ:[[o]]&items=100&|/bss/d110query.html|
Whether you agree with her sponsored legislation or not, she has at least accomplished something — unlike Dr. Ron.
Not quite what I said, but I completely understand your attempts at deflection to the point I was making.
What is pathetic and sad is your support of a man who has accomplished nothing in 20 years, and can offer nothing more than lip service.
Pretty lip service makes a great fit for the Paul crowd.....
Reagan Democrats = moderates.
Paul Democrats = leftists.
:)
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