Posted on 11/17/2007 6:27:48 PM PST by Nathan_Hale76
Folks, here are very good interviews by Hugh Hewitt of Charles Krauthammer (whom I really admire) and Larry Kudlow about these push polls which I feel is very worthwhile and hope will put this issue in a better perspective:
~”Are you wearing your magical protective Mormon underpants?”~
As fascinated as you may be by the subject, I do not consider my choice of underwear to be an appropriate topic for regular discussion.
There are many images on the Internet, though, that may help sate your curiosity at times like this.
If it helps with your imagery, I’m an overweight 28-year-old Mormon man. Too much green jello with shredded carrots, I suppose. I don’t normally put that detail into the personals.
“I love it. Mother’s present for the missionary discussions; Mitt is on another continent; Ann has the permission and trust of her parents; and you call the Mormon Missionaries “friends of the Governor/Presidential candidate.” When Ann makes the decision independently to join the LDS Church, you call it “brainwashing.”
You do realize that you’re making a fool out of yourself, right? And you do realize that I’m going to throw this in your face many times in the future? Don’t worry, I’ll ping you every time.”
Please throw it up whenever you like, that is exactly what I had hoped for. You see, to normal people, an 18 year old male at college having his authority figure father indoctrinate a 15 year old is freaking abusive. I mean, remember the tizzy we all had when Bill Clinton was influencing a starry eyed 18 year old intern. So yes, please tell the whole world how great it is for a governor.presidential candidate to brainwash a 15 or 16 year old girl into being your sons baby factory, that will go over just great.
I await this discussion with anticipation.
Thanks so much. :-)
~”Wow...it took you since post #291 to blow that respect part up, eh?”~
Who, specifically, did I call a bigot this evening, Osage? Did I, perhaps, hit a tender spot with you?
Well...I'm sorry. You make me laugh. Of course your "GROW UP" post is a wonderful and very kind way to start. LOL!!
My point here is religious bigotry is unAmerican — our country was founded on religious freedom. These push polls are unacceptable, and I hope someone finds out who has done this.
If it's bigotry to ask questions of other religions, then I'm a bigot also. If it's bigotry to think that many religions are cults...then I guess I'm a bigot too.
Just to be clear....I don't condone the so-called "push-poll." I do want questions answered...and I think it's healthy. FWIW...it wouldn't surprise me if you are sorely disappointed and disillusioned...if/when you find out who created the push-poll.
“My point here is religious bigotry is unAmerican —”
It is not. I am bigoted against Satanists, are you not so also? If not, give me your address and I will certainly direct some your way.
By the way, sounds like you are bigoted against bigotry. That makes you a bigot.
Quite so. Bigotry is constitutionally protected, as is its condemnation.
Who, specifically, did I call a bigot this evening, Osage? Did I, perhaps, hit a tender spot with you?
You specifically alluded that FC was a bigot. And then you proceed to imply that I am also.
You never cease to amaze me...In one post you..take the holy high "I'm better than thou" road..and less than 15 posts down the tread you call another FReeper a bigot.
This is your way, I know you can't help yourself..cause you are so much better than others..and always right and all!! ROFLOL!! You really are a hoot.
~”It is not. I am bigoted against Satanists, are you not so also?”~
Bigot (n): a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
http://m-w.com/dictionary/bigot
I do not hate or act intolerant of either Satanists or you, and I’ve seen no evidence that GOP_Lady does either. I do think that both are wrong, and I will tell you so, and, given the opportunity, do what I can to persuade you otherwise.
You, on the other hand, have embraced intolerance sufficent that a good, qualified man is unfit in your eyes for political power specifically because of his religious beliefs. Your hatred of a few of those who hold these beliefs leads you to lie and distort about all of them in an attempt to tear them down (of which we’ve seen a number of examples on this thread alone). By the dictionary definition, these behaviors are bigotry.
Don’t worry, we all have Grace available to us. It’s not too late for you either, FC.
~”This is your way, I know you can’t help yourself..cause you are so much better than others..and always right and all!!”~
Not better. Always right, yes.
~”You really are a hoot.”~
Thanks!
Your a bigot, I'm a bigot...and she's a bigot too!
Too funny.........
Nothing new there........LOL!!
I would suppose...in a strict interpretation that you could be considered a bigot also, Tant.
From one bigot to another...
Cheers....: )
Yawn....Same old lies eh.
“I do not hate or act intolerant of either Satanists”
Please send me your address so we can prove this point. I will give it to every Satanist I can find on the Internet and tell them to look you up so you can prove you have not one shred of intolerance in your entire body.
“You, on the other hand, have embraced intolerance sufficent that a good, qualified man is unfit in your eyes for political power specifically because of his religious beliefs.”
Hell yess, except I don’t define qualified as someone who believes in peep stones, transient revelations, delightsome races, secret rites, blanket religious deferments (who then wants to be CIC), reformed Egyptian, Lamanites or a hundred other bizarre ideas - and has to pretend he doesn’t belief in any of this baloney to trick people into voting for him.
“Your hatred of a few of those who hold these beliefs”
I don’t hate you, I just won’t be bullied into voting for crazy people.
“leads you to lie and distort about all of them in an attempt to tear them down (of which we’ve seen a number of examples on this thread alone).”
As always, no citations, just wild assed accusations. You show me where I’ve lied. In fact, I’ve been a hell of a lot more truthful, and cited more of my positions with documents, than any of the apologists.
“By the dictionary definition, these behaviors are bigotry.”
So? By definition you are bigoted against bigots. Your religion is bigoted against Christians. But you just stated you are NOT bigoted against Satanists. Remind me to feel sorry when your Satanist friends show up for a little blood cultism.
“Don’t worry, we all have Grace available to us. It’s not too late for you either, FC.”
Thanks, that is so delightsome of you. False Prophets on the other hand have a toasty time in hell.
[By the way, sounds like you are bigoted against bigotry. That makes you a bigot.Ha!
Your a bigot, I’m a bigot...and she’s a bigot too!
Too funny.........]
Yeah, that’s why ‘bigot’ is a worthless taunt. It is self referential. You can do the same thing with the word “intolerance”. Someone who is intolerant of intolerant people is, you guessed it, intolerant.
But explaining circular logic to people who are constructed of circular logic teaches them nothing, they might as well be potted plants.
Here I have forced someone into professing they would not be bigoted against Satanists, and they see no absurdity in that. I might as well be preaching quantum physics to a brick.
“What part of Quantum Energy States don’t you get! ? “ I scream at the brick. “You are bigoted against bricks,” the brick replies.
If the brick replies, put down the bong and slowly back away, oh great one.
“If the brick replies, put down the bong and slowly back away, oh great one.”
I think you are bigoted against my Rastafarian religion! Ganja!
~”You show me where I’ve lied.”~
Ah, let’s see... Oh, here’s a good one:
Serious political discourse according to FastCoyote:
“I don’t agree with Romney on the moral issues. For example, Mitt was 18 when he met his 15 year old wife to-be Ann, then he had his powerful father brainwash her into Mormonism in a 6 day indoctrination. Now maybe you want to uphold family values like brainwashing, but I don’t.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1927350/posts?page=297#297
Best regards!
~”Yeah, that’s why ‘bigot’ is a worthless taunt.”~
A bit like “cult,” it seems to me.
~”Here I have forced someone into professing they would not be bigoted against Satanists, and they see no absurdity in that.”~
Then you need to learn the correct definition of the term. I have it posted above for your convenient reference.
Best regards!
Oh yeah, Go Mitt!
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