Maybe I should pay more attention to Italia, my sis goes over there every few years and speaks well of it.
But masculocentric non-development is a cultural result of liberal socialist based disempowerment of traditional male culture. I mean who wants to be an ass kicker if your parents make you watch "Broke Back Mountain," when you are 8 years old, instead of "the Outlaw Josey Wales?"
When I was 8 , I was out ridge running with the family hound carrying a .410 single shot for grouse. So did my son.We were both ready for the world by the time we turned 18, maybe not the sharpest knives in the drawer (LOL) , but we knew how to cope and look after ourselves.
And we had manners, and the girlies loved to hang with us at that age...dances ( you bet)....canoe trips ....yup.....summer camps ....( fun) and we were always in the mix with the co-eds. AND my son and I are a generation apart. So it was all possible until about 10 years ago, when the culture wars began to take their toll on socializing young men.
We got to keep on fighting for the old ways. Or our society will be inundated with gurly men, and punksters who say nothing more than, " What about me?" and know little about coping with life until they ARE in their 40s,with two ex's and kids from three different women, who sit in front of a box and drool for 6 hours every day.
Gurly men untie! You have nothing to lose but your brains!LOL.
An unfortunate choice of words.