sex should be emotionless, without attachments, with the use of the female using birth control of course, because we wouldn't want to slow down our young men any with fatherhood....
society is going to get what it wants and its going to get it good and hard...
You are right - that does sound very depressing!
Missing fathers.
I dunno, my daughter got taken to Homecoming dances and to the junior and senior proms, as well as annual JROTC balls at which the young gentlemen dressed in their fine uniforms. This was just a couple of years ago. We live near Washington DC.
It is one thing if he invited her to a dressy occasion at another venue. But to invite her to a dance and then not take her to the dance is just plain wrong.
I have no problem with students not attending their high school’s particular function. But to invite someone one place and then to renege, and especially without prior warning to the invitee, is just plain wrong.
Why indeed?
Wasn't there even ONE father there, who could look a boy in the eye and simply say "you ARE taking my daughter to the dance, aren't you?"
If the boy didn't respect that coming from a father, he won't respect anyone.
Girls don't have to take that disrespect.
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My girlfriend (she is 50) can’t find a decent man. All they want is to “hook up” on the first date. None of them open doors, they drive up, wait in the car etc. All the things that an attentive father would have not allowed. You’d think at that age....but no....
I think he had a good time. He ended up going to someone's house afterwards with a group of kids, where they watched a movie ... and he made it home by his midnight curfew.
High school dances seem to be, as this man describes, mostly for girls to "see and be seen"; to show off for their friends. If a boy doesn't have, and doesn't want, a girlfriend, why should he volunteer to be "arm candy" for some girl who will barely give him the time of day on Monday morning? (Yes, I know, the boys supposedly asked the girls out. However, I know from my son's experience that a girl will sometimes pressure a boy to do that, and if he's not careful he'll get himself in a situation where it's impossible to turn her down without "losing face".)
Anyway, the solution for these girls is very simple: find other boys to date, and make their expectations clear.
I don't see much point in pushing high school kids to date anyway. It's not like they're really in the market for a spouse yet, so it can't lead to much good. If they want to date, that's different. But it really shouldn't be an expectation, IMO.
I heard that when reading Romeo and Juliet in school, kids find it funny that Juliet would kill herself over Romeo’s tragic demise.
I guess they see it the way we would if someone killed himself over the death of his golfing buddy.
It is sad and true. My daughter wishes she lived in the 50s and 60s when parents taught their children how to treat the opposite sex well.
My daughters are well taught, but I am afraid that there are no opposite numbers for them. Virginity is not highly valued anymore. Even in beauties like my girls.
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Hire a lawyer, and sue the boys for fraud; hurt feelings; expenses involved in the dresses, hairdressers, etc; legal expenses; breech of promise; and, anything else a real attorney could think of.
It is the American way!
Alternative: have big brothers beat the bejabbers out of the cads.
One of the rules that scared off most of my daughters boyfriends was:
Do not lie to me. I may appear to be a pot-bellied, balding, middle-aged, dim-witted has-been. But on issues relating to my daughter, I am the all-knowing, merciless god of your universe. If I ask you where you are going and with whom, you have one chance to tell me the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I have a shotgun, a shovel, and five acres behind the house. Do not trifle with me.
In my day, we never had to PURCHASE tickets for school functions - some kids just don't have the funds - especially nowadays when the boys are expected wear tuxes - EVEN in middle school!
We tend to think of the big expense for girls and their gowns - and even though many can buy 'thrift' gowns, or make them, there is still the shoes, hair, etc.
But many boys = nor their parents = have the funds to rent a tux, buy flowers, dinner and often share in limo rentals...and double tickets...
These school functions need to be affordable for all - betcha there wouldn't be this trend,,,
Why did we stand there, clicking our digital cameras, saying nothing?
Well? Why DID you?????????????
The terms, lady and gentleman, have no meaning today. Our culture is so vulgar, crude, and rude that the youth and most of their parents make barbarians look good. Feminism told women that you cannot be a lady and liberated. Women have always been the cultivators of society. When women started acting more like dogs in heat than ladies, the whole culture went down the toilet bowl.
A lot of this nonsense is actually an indirect effect of several problems not mentioned. To start with, for many kids and teenagers, for 50 years there has been a lack of “polite socialization” situations in which they can interact, learn about each other, and just be friendly.
Formal dances and proms have just become grotesque. If boys and girls haven’t been informally and comfortably socialized to each other, who in their right mind thinks they will do so wearing uncomfortable and freakish clothing in rigid and stylized social circumstances? For many kids, a prom is a nightmare.
There is far less socialization going on in school than is popularly imagined. Many kids go through their entire high school years without interacting to any great degree with members of the opposite sex.
Certainly polite socialization events need to be chaperoned, but it is just “hanging out” with supervision. A chance for boys and girls to chit chat and practice being sociable with those they haven’t in past, but want to in the future. They also need a chance to do things cooperatively and lose a lot of fear about each other.
Importantly, even at a young age, there are some boys and girls who are blunt, crude, and forward. Often that is just the way of their family. But they need to be culled from the group, lest they spread their unwholesome attitudes and behavior to others. Behave like ladies and gentlemen or get kicked out.
There is nothing wrong with practicing their “social sexuality”, in ways like 1-minute dates, 5-minute dates, and 15-minute dates. Pushing them to be able to communicate with each other beyond when they run out of chit chat, to talk about each other’s interests. It is also a great opportunity for male and female teachers to point out errors in etiquette and “turn offs” to the kids.
“No, she doesn’t just want to talk about race cars. And he probably has zero interest in your unicorn collection.”
Many girls live and breathe dancing, but many boys do not give a darn for it. Neither are very good at doing it without some instruction, which is hard to find. This is why freak dancing and nonsense like that gets around. They don’t know how to dance otherwise.
No reason in the world not to bring in a dance instructor, to show some basic moves.
It is true, and it is a very loneley generation.