Is Giuliani a dime-store Dewey?

WorldNetDaily ^ | 11/17/07 | Ellis Washington

[wagglebee]

[Rudy Giuliani] a thrice-married, ex-mayor of New York whose career [43% approval rating] was on life-support, but for 9/11.

~ Ellis Washington, "Neville Chamberlain's revenge"

President Truman holds up the erroneous Chicago Tribune headline in this famous photograph.

When I look at the movers and shakers in modern times, I always try to find their "precedent figure" in the annals of history. For example, Republican presidential candidate, front-runner and former mayor of New York Rudy Giuliani is a fascinating person. In my opinion, Giuliani's precedent figure was a man named Thomas Dewey.

~snip~

Finally, in analyzing the credentials of these two men, I ask you this pivotal question, dear reader: Is Rudy Giuliani merely a dime-store Dewey, or does he have the gravitas to become a great Republican president in the mode of a TR or Reagan? The propaganda press and the liberal mainstream media have been aggressively pushing the Giuliani candidacy. Conservative skeptics claim that the liberal media desperately want Giuliani to be the Republican nominee so that Bill Clinton's infidelities and the Clintons' criminal past, along with their radical liberal worldview, will become a mute point due to the moral aphorism: People who live in glass houses should never throw stones.

If this triangulation strategy is successful, like Dewey, Giuliani will indeed descend into the abyss of obscurity and become a dime-store Dewey, and in January 2009 Americans will be forced to hail Her Majesty President Hillary Rodham.

[wagglebee]

Nominating Rooty Toot will destroy conservatism and the GOP.

[wagglebee]

Stop Rudy Ping

[lilylangtree]

Get Rudy then we’ll have social=climber Judy. They’re Hill & Bill of the Republican Party, i.e., ethically-challenged and morally corrupt.

[alicewonders]

Giuliani must be defeated in the primaries. Conservatives will have to band together to do this.

[BGHater]

Giuliani is going down.

Bernard Kerik and Lindley DeVecchio will be his destruction.

[StatenIsland]

I must confess that I simply do not understand this piece. Would somebody please interpret this into plain English for me?

And what is a “mute point”?

[wagglebee]

I must confess that I simply do not understand this piece. Would somebody please interpret this into plain English for me?

Nominating Rooty Toot will be a disaster.

And what is a “mute point”?

A typo.

[x]

Richard Rorty was the "dime store Dewey" (different Dewey, though).

The problem with the analysis is that what was possible in politics was a lot different sixty years ago in the aftermath of the New Deal than what's possible today.

Dewey and his complacency lost the election, but a more conservative candidate, Taft or Bricker, most probably would have done worse.

In those years even Ronald Reagan was voting for Roosevelt and Truman.

This, from Wikipedia's article on Dewey is interesting:

Part of the reason Dewey ran such a cautious, vague campaign was because of his experiences as a presidential candidate in 1944. In that election Dewey felt that he had allowed Franklin Roosevelt to draw him into a partisan, verbal "mudslinging" match, and he believed that this had cost him votes. As such, Dewey was convinced in 1948 to appear as non-partisan as possible, and to emphasize the positive aspects of his campaign while ignoring his opponent. This strategy proved to be a major mistake, as it allowed Truman to repeatedly criticize and ridicule Dewey, while Dewey never answered any of Truman's criticisms.

I'm not crazy about Rudy Giuliani, but he is a fighter. I like Mitt, but I can see how he might go the Dewey route of counting his chickens before they're hatched.

But really, is any Republican next year going to have the kind of early lead that Dewey had in 1948? The eventual nominee -- whoever it is -- is going to have to fight to the last minute.

[HerrBlucher]

And what is a “mute point”?

A logical argument made in sign language.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Nominating Rooty Toot will destroy conservatism and the GOP.

That's a stretch. Nominating Rudy would demoralize key parts of the conservative base, but life would go on, whether he eventually won or not.

[Argus]

If Giuliani is Dewey, then who’s Truman?

The sound of crickets.

[wagglebee]

ANYBODY the ‘Rats run.

[Leisler]

Dewey was a great American. During the war he was leading a Congressional investigation into the failures of Perl Harbor and the loss of the Army in the Philippines. The investigation was looking into intelligence. The US Navy had broken some codes then, and more as the war went on. FDR sent a Colonel with a handwritten three page letter to Dewey. The letter explained the size and importance of the intercepts. Dewey read the letter standing, handed it back and shut down the investigation right then and there and never said anyting to anyone.

[Kevmo]

Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
Self ^ | 11/11/07 | Kevmo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
Posted on 11/15/2007 3:43:17 AM PST by Kevmo

[longtermmemmory]

Dime store?

The author overvalues Hillary (R)

No Giuliani, NO PROBLEM.

[kjo]

I’m with you. Rudy would not be my first choice. But you gotta admire the guy’s guts and nerve. He took on the Mafia and shattered them, they actually took a vote to kill him, it failed by one.

He’s tough, and he doesn’t take crap from anybody. I am getting to kind of like him. Look, the abortion genie is never going back in the bottle. Some form of national gun control is coming in the next twenty years. Deal with it.

Rudy can win. Hitlery MUST be stopped.

[DocH]

Some form of national gun control is coming in the next twenty years. Deal with it.

I promise you, we WILL "deal" with it, and with all those who support trashing our Second Amendment rights, including your prescious anti-gun RINO, RINO-rudy, if they/he are so stupid as to continue down their chosen, UN-American path.

I took an oath as a Marine to support and defend the Constitution from ALL enemies, both foreign and DOMESTIC.

I, and MANY of my fellow veterans and citizens, will do what is necessary, if and when the time comes.

[tear gas]

He’s tough, and he doesn’t take crap from anybody. I am getting to kind of like him.

"Oh, Rudy, it turns me on when you talk tough like that. Do it again, Rudy, you make me feel sooooooo safe. Oh, Ruuuuuuuuudy."

ROFL.

Rudy is a punk.

[wideminded]

Is Giuliani a dime-store Dewey?

Romney looks a lot more like the little man on the wedding cake.

[bert]

Spitzer is the Dewey wannabe.

Rudy is the genuine article. He may not have the idealogical purity required to be President, but he is a truly great American.