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To: Non-Sequitur
No thanks.

Couldn't find any, huh? Well there's a simple reason for that. There weren't any.

No, that would mean that I didn't look for any.  Let me know if you need more help comprehending forum responses.

Well I'd suspect even you might be able to understand that with a loss of approximately 260 lives this instance might be a little different than most others. As protective as the Navy is, submarine locations are revealed when they return to port, so it isn't like the Navy never reveals their location is it?


It'd be kind of hard to hide a submarine tied up to a pier. But before reaching port, the Navy would have every possible reason for wanting to hide the whereabouts of their submarines or what areas they're transiting in. And that would well include P-3 exercises that involve them. And since neither submarines nor P-3s could shoot down an airliner why should the Navy publicize their activities?

Are you going on record stating that a shoulder fired SAM couldn't be fired from a surfaced submarine?


The Navy is a rather large entity. Most folks would be capable of understanding that someone could hold off judgement on a certain incident and still be supportive of the service over all.

I don't see how.

Now there's startling news.

You would have us believe that you support our military while at the same time believing they're capable of shooting down a civilian airliner and engaging in a massive coverup to deny responsibility.

I believe that there are a very limited number of players that could have fired a SAM capable of taking down TWA 800.  Our military would obvsiously be one of them.  Once again, I am keeping ALL options on the table regardless of the odds against one of those options is 'THE' option.  The possibility still exists.  Until the cause is revealed, we just don't know for certain.

I don't see that as supportive, expecially since there is no evidence to support it.

Were you on one of the vessels in question that night?
Do you know what the operation was?
Do you know what every person was doing at the moment TWA 800 was taken down?

My perception is no, no, no.

127 posted on 11/19/2007 12:40:49 PM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: DoughtyOne
No, that would mean that I didn't look for any. Let me know if you need more help comprehending forum responses.

No, I just assumed that you were serious when you admitted that you'd have to actually look for some evidence to support your claims. In retrospect the fact that you didn't isn't surprising at all.

Are you going on record stating that a shoulder fired SAM couldn't be fired from a surfaced submarine?

My, you are getting wilder and wilder with your theories, aren't you. Very well, I won't go on record stating a shoulder fired SAM couldn't be fired from a surfaced sub, but I will go on record stating that shoulder fires SAMs are not carried on U.S. submarines, for obvious reasons.

I believe that there are a very limited number of players that could have fired a SAM capable of taking down TWA 800. Our military would obvsiously be one of them. Once again, I am keeping ALL options on the table regardless of the odds against one of those options is 'THE' option. The possibility still exists. Until the cause is revealed, we just don't know for certain.

Oh you can stick your 'keeping ALL options open' where the sun don't shine. What you are saying, and please be man enough to admit it, is that you think it's possible, even probable, that the U.S. Navy shot down TWA 800 and then engaged in a massive coverup. Like I said, with supporters like you the Navy hardly needs enemies.

128 posted on 11/19/2007 1:10:47 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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