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1 posted on 11/16/2007 7:49:17 PM PST by freedom44
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To: freedom44
Islam has a problem.


2 posted on 11/16/2007 7:54:12 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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Mohammed recommended that they go into the desert in the neighborhood of al-Jammu and drink the milk and urine of his (Mohammed's) milch-camels

This explains a lot.

3 posted on 11/16/2007 7:54:27 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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Jesus does not even say, "You believed in me, you accepted me, Jesus, as your personal Lord and Savior, enter into the kingdom . . ."

Jesus DOES say this in OTHER parts of the Gospel which is repeated throughout the New Testament.

4 posted on 11/16/2007 8:00:55 PM PST by Jorge
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It is clear from any rading of the Koran that Mohammed got all his information about other religions from third hand sources. The onl;y time Gabriel appeared o him was after smoking that Hashish stuff gotten from the hemp plant.



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5 posted on 11/16/2007 8:01:49 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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Islam would be an OK religion if they took out all the hatred, violence, and war against everyone else and the schizo sayings of that SOB Allah and his perverted minion Moe. Of course, there wouldn’t be much left.


7 posted on 11/16/2007 8:26:40 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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I know of a Muslim man who immigrated to America.

I will call him a “secular” Muslim.

This coming week he will teach his children about Thanksgiving, and in December his family will have some sort of a Christmas celebration.

He takes these small steps because his children are American born, and because he is an American who immigrated from Pakistan.

And I believe in time, the more he is exposed to these Christian traditions, the further and further he will step away from even the last of his remaining Muslim customs. Because he can already see the value that these holidays hold... in teaching his children what America IS.


12 posted on 11/16/2007 9:19:37 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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The thing I find most disturbing about Muslim beliefs is that according to their faith you can’t really know if your soul will spend eternity with God or apart from God. The Christian faith teaches we can be sure of a place in the presence of God, but the Muslims they won’t know if what they’ve done is ‘good enough’ to get them into paradise until they face their creator. Talk about a crap shoot!
15 posted on 11/17/2007 5:00:40 AM PST by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
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“Jesus does not say, “You followed the laws of Moses, you kept Shabat, you observed the festivals and holy days, and studied the prophets and the books of wisdom and the Talmud, and paid tithe, enter into the kingdom . . .” Jesus does not say, “You believed in the Apostles Creed, or the Nicene Creed, you studied the Catechism,.....”

In this case what Jesus did not say is more voluminous than what He DID say. In such cases, many times, we are putting our argument into the mouth of the Saviour.

There is a path, a road to salvation the complexity of which is directed by The almighty’s understanding of Human Nature (which He designed). Neither the New Testament nor the Old Testament is the length of Matt;21;35-46. If the quoted passage were the do all end all of salvation The Deity might have saved someone a hell of a lot of writers cramp.

Salvation isn’t any more in the deeds advised by Matt:21:35-46 than it is in the deeds described by the author in all that he says Jesus DIDN’T say. Salvation is the end result of a process of THINKING that is directed by the Testaments IN THEIR ENTIRETY that arrives at a place predetermined by God. It is understanding a thing that flies in the face of ALL of the understanding of the mortal world.

What of a Man who hewed to the laws of Moses and kept Shabat etc in the face of death itself? What of a Man who refused to renounce God or the Saviour under penalty of death? And how likely is it that such a person would lack compassion or understanding or empathy for his fellow man?

16 posted on 11/17/2007 6:55:31 AM PST by TalBlack
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