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Farm Bill Falls Short in Senate
AP via SFGate ^ | 11/16/7 | MARY CLARE JALONICK, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 11/16/2007 11:26:34 AM PST by SmithL

The Senate blocked a $286 billion farm bill Friday, a blow to farm-state lawmakers who wanted to give their constituents expanded subsidies before next year's elections.

Though politically popular, the bill stalled in a dispute between the parties over unrelated amendments that Republicans wanted to add. Democrats failed to get the 60 votes they needed to cut off debate on the measure. The final vote was 55-42.

The vote could push consideration of the legislation into 2008 or beyond. Senate Agriculture Chairman Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, said Thursday that the bill may fare better after next year's elections, with a new Congress and a new president.

The Bush administration has issued a veto threat against the bill, saying it is too expensive and would pay wealthy farmers too much.

Harkin speculated on the floor Friday that the White House is pressuring Republicans to stop the bill because President Bush doesn't want to veto legislation that is so popular in farm states.

"I certainly hope the situation is not a deliberate, or orchestrated, attempt to stop the farm bill dead in its tracks, but I'm beginning to wonder," Harkin said.

Farm state Democrats headed home for the Thanksgiving recess are preparing to blame Republicans for slowing down the legislation. Some Republicans wanted to offer amendments dealing with the alternative minimum tax, immigration and other nonagricultural issues.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; agriculture; farmbill; pork; ussentate

1 posted on 11/16/2007 11:26:35 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL
Um Tom, Republican voters are the ones that PAY for the subsides, Democrats voters are the ones who GET the subsides. Not going to be Republican voters punishing anyone for not bringing home the pork.
2 posted on 11/16/2007 11:28:28 AM PST by MNJohnnie (FUND THE WAR! DEFUND THE PORK!)
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To: SmithL

last time i checked, running a farm was a business.....if you cannot manage your business and make a profit, the government should not subsidize you, you should go bankrupt, and let a more business saavy farmer buy you out and take over...end all subsidies....


3 posted on 11/16/2007 11:30:49 AM PST by joe fonebone (When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout)
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To: SmithL

Gridlock is so fine.


4 posted on 11/16/2007 11:32:08 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: SmithL

“The vote could push consideration of the legislation into 2008 or beyond. Senate Agriculture Chairman Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, said Thursday that the bill may fare better after next year’s elections, with a new Congress and a new president.”

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“Hey, you conservative farmers! Donate and vote for us and we’ll give you FREE STUFF!


5 posted on 11/16/2007 11:34:03 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: joe fonebone

Amen!! America’s farmers are the richest welfare queens in the world.


6 posted on 11/16/2007 11:34:45 AM PST by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!! The steakiest steak in the race!!)
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To: SmithL

Oh, I forgot:

Harkin is a tool.


7 posted on 11/16/2007 11:34:48 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: SmithL

Got to protect those farmers. I heard Steve Forbes on a radio show a few days ago say that Brazil cannot import sugar ethanol into the US because of a $.54 per gallon tariff to protect our corn ethanol producers.


8 posted on 11/16/2007 11:34:50 AM PST by microgood
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To: joe fonebone

Drive out into western Minnesota to sugar beet country. You will see some of the wealthiest farmers in the world, courtesy of you and me.


9 posted on 11/16/2007 11:35:09 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: joe fonebone

Great! We got a reprieve. This means that NAIS won’t become mandatory this session.


10 posted on 11/16/2007 11:38:58 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: SmithL

socialism for farmers


11 posted on 11/16/2007 11:41:00 AM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: ari-freedom
Actually, it's worse than that. Most of the direct subsidy payments don't go to people who actually farm, but people, or business enterprises that own land which has some historic relationship to farming.

CRP land, for instance, is nothing more than a direct subsidy to hunting preserves for wealthy urbanites.

12 posted on 11/16/2007 11:55:36 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: ari-freedom

The Farm Bill would have paid out subsidies to millionaires “farmers” living in Manhattan!!

That’s what this map says at least: http://theelectoralmap.com/2007/11/12/mapping-out-ridiculous-congressional-legislation/


13 posted on 11/16/2007 11:59:44 AM PST by outfield
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To: microgood
Got to protect those farmers. I heard Steve Forbes on a radio show a few days ago say that Brazil cannot import sugar ethanol into the US because of a $.54 per gallon tariff to protect our corn ethanol producers.

Yes, Tariffs to protect C&H sugar and 500 jobs in Hawaii. But look what we get for these 500 jobs.....

1.) 10,000 jobs lost in the US Candy industry due to higher sugar prices

2.) Increased produce prices so farmers can grow more corn to produce high fructose corn syrup

3.) Increased diabetes resulting with the increased use of fructose as a sugar substitute

5.) Higher gas prices for the consumer (sugar ethanol is cheaper)

6.) Environmental damage (corn ethanol has at least a 8 times greater impact on the environment over sugar ethanol).

14 posted on 11/16/2007 12:16:53 PM PST by 11th Commandment
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To: SmithL

The many, many farmers, seed companies and agri-chemical companies salivating over government-funded fuel corn production are not pleased. Not pleased at all.


15 posted on 11/16/2007 12:44:07 PM PST by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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To: polymuser

Farm subsidies are such a scam. A friend of mine who has horses and timber on his dads old farmstead gets money from the government so he wont plant any corn on his land.. and he never has or never will farm. Let free markets determine the costs of produce. If someone wants to plant as much of a crop to make biofuel, let him, but dont expect me to subsidize a 5$ box of cereal.


16 posted on 11/16/2007 1:55:48 PM PST by mriguy67
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To: mriguy67

We have a small family farm and grew and sold hay for several years. Hay was plentiful and cheap at that time. The government tried to pay us not to grow hay in order to drive up the hay prices. We told them to stuff it.


17 posted on 11/16/2007 2:15:47 PM PST by Melinda in TN
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To: SmithL

Good.

Now take all copies of the bill down to Dupont Circle and BURN THEM.


18 posted on 11/16/2007 2:16:46 PM PST by Petronski (Willardcare abortions $50 each, $25 per twin. Ask for S&H Stamps!)
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To: SmithL; All

Good. This is just one more unofficial entitlement that we do not need on our backs. Let the farmers raise crops that will make them a fair profit or sell out.


19 posted on 11/16/2007 3:41:28 PM PST by thelastvirgil
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