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Senate Votes to Block Iraq War Money
AP ^ | By ANNE FLAHERTY

Posted on 11/16/2007 7:58:00 AM PST by rightinthemiddle

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate on Friday blocked a Republican proposal to pay $70 billion for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan without strings attached.

The 53-45 vote was 15 votes short of the 60 needed to advance.

The measure was aimed at countering Democratic legislation that also would bankroll the operations, but would additionally require that troops start coming home in 30 days.

The Democratic bill, passed by the House on Wednesday, set a goal of ending combat by December 2008.

"We need to get the funds to the troops and we need to do it now," said Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said the only way to get troops the money was to approve the restrictions outlined by Democrats.

"Anything else is political posturing," said Reid.

Democrats also were expected to fall short of the 60 votes needed to advance their bill.

Reid and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said this week that if Congress cannot pass legislation that ties war money to troop withdrawals, they would not send Bush a bill this year.

Instead, they would revisit the issue upon returning in January, pushing the Pentagon to the brink of an accounting nightmare and deepening Democrats' conflict with the White House on the war.

In the meantime, Democrats say, the Pentagon can eat into its $471 billion annual budget without being forced to take drastic steps.

"The days of a free lunch are over," said Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Thursday that unless Congress passes funding for the war within days, he will direct the Army and Marine Corps to begin developing plans to lay off employees and terminate contracts early next year.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: rightinthemiddle
Nope, it marks the 41 Democrat defeat on Iraq in just this session of Congress.
41 posted on 11/16/2007 8:22:55 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Hillary is polarizing, deceitful, and liberal. And those are are her good points!" Beaversmom)
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To: MNJohnnie

This is strange...four Republicans voted with the Dims, four Democrats voted with the Republicans?

That means at least four Senators contradicted themselves...or voted “no” on both.


42 posted on 11/16/2007 8:22:57 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: Steely Tom
Not to add to your anxiety, but read the words William Casey wrote to his daughter in Ollie North's latest report here. Casey's understanding of the imperative back then was spot on. Given our understanding today that "those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it," think of the burden the RATs are trying to place on our children and grandchildren.
43 posted on 11/16/2007 8:23:40 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: MNJohnnie

BTW...how you doin’, brother?


44 posted on 11/16/2007 8:23:49 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: All

Who are the Democrat senators in red states who failed to vote as they should have on these bills?


45 posted on 11/16/2007 8:25:00 AM PST by Owen
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To: JackRyanCIA

Yeah, he was mine too, until I moved to Kentucky. I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw a truck.


46 posted on 11/16/2007 8:25:14 AM PST by anoldafvet (To liberals, building a wall across the Mexican border is a violation of the Voting Rights Act.)
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To: Steely Tom

I fear for our soldiers in harm’s way. The left will pull the rug out from under them, then laugh as they are humiliated and killed.

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Yep, it a Democrat who would be first to say they still don’t have the protective gear they need, yet, Democrats are continually finding ways to hold up the funds.


47 posted on 11/16/2007 8:25:14 AM PST by Son House ($$Proud Member of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: CougarGA7

If a single soldier is killed because they lacked the funding and equipment due to political posturing mr reid I will hold you PERSONALLY responsible.

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Many of us are with you on this one.


48 posted on 11/16/2007 8:26:44 AM PST by Son House ($$Proud Member of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: NonValueAdded
Repeating Casey's key paragraph (empahsis added):

"This ocean was placed between us by forces you never knew, which the generation before mine failed to control and which mine must stamp out. It is a task which must be done if we are to live in peace, freedom and decency. We shrank from the job and the danger grew.

49 posted on 11/16/2007 8:27:19 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: lesser_satan
"I’d like to know who the Republicans are who voted against it, and what their excuse is."

You can always count on Snow, Specter, and whoever that other women is that always votes the same as Snow.

50 posted on 11/16/2007 8:28:18 AM PST by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: rightinthemiddle

USA is calling it a draw:

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/11/senate-puts-off.html

Says they’re putting off the funding until next year. Meanwhile, the Pentagon will have to pay for Iraq out of its regular budget.


51 posted on 11/16/2007 8:28:40 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: JackRyanCIA
Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State

Grouped By Vote Position

YEAs ---53
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lincoln (D-AR)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Obama (D-IL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)
NAYs ---45
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

52 posted on 11/16/2007 8:29:04 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Spunky

That would be Collins.


53 posted on 11/16/2007 8:30:01 AM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON/ DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: CougarGA7

They don’t call him Dirty Harry for nothing.


54 posted on 11/16/2007 8:30:18 AM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: rightinthemiddle
The Democrats are invested in defeat. Their pandering to their kooks is more important than supporting the troops. The American people are taking notice. Enjoy your turkey, Dingy Harry!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

55 posted on 11/16/2007 8:30:27 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Have you figured out how the vote went on the Republican version?


57 posted on 11/16/2007 8:32:17 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: goldstategop

Klobuchar (D-MN)

Their pandering to their kooks is more important than supporting the troops. The American people are taking notice. Enjoy your turkey, Dingy Amy!


58 posted on 11/16/2007 8:34:37 AM PST by Son House ($$Proud Member of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: NonValueAdded
Thus clearing the way for the House’s AlQaeda Rescue Act of 2007 for consideration.

Which is what actually failed according to Thomas. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00411

59 posted on 11/16/2007 8:37:37 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Hillary is polarizing, deceitful, and liberal. And those are are her good points!" Beaversmom)
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To: Son House
Enjoy your turkey, Dingy Amy!

Preach it.

60 posted on 11/16/2007 8:38:51 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("No one asked you your opinion, Christopher." - Fred Thompson)
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