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Congress in Tiff Over English-Only Rules
AP via SFGate ^ | 11/15/7 | ANDREW TAYLOR, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 11/15/2007 4:39:26 PM PST by SmithL

A government suit against the Salvation Army has the House and Senate at loggerheads over whether to nullify a law that prohibits employers from firing people who don't speak English on the job.

The fight illustrates the explosiveness of immigration as an issue in the 2008 elections.

Republicans on Capitol Hill are pushing hard to protect employers who require their workers to speak English, but Democratic leaders have blocked the move despite narrow vote tallies in the GOP's favor.

For more than 30 years, federal rules have generally barred employers from establishing English-only requirements for their workers. But Senate Republicans have won passage of legislation preventing the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission from enforcing the rules.

House Democratic leaders, meanwhile, have promised Hispanic lawmakers that the language issue is a nonstarter and the resulting impasse has stalled the underlying budget bill, which lawmakers had hoped to send to President Bush this week.

The EEOC has come under assault from lawmakers such as Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., after the agency filed suit earlier this year against a Salvation Army thrift store in Massachusetts that had fired two Hispanic employees for speaking Spanish while sorting clothes.

Supporters of the EEOC regulation — which can be waived if there is a legitimate business or safety purpose to require English — say it protects workers from discrimination based on their national origin, which is barred under the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

"I cannot imagine that the framers of the 1964 Civil Rights Act intended to say that it's discrimination for a shoe shop owner to say to his or her employee, 'I want you to be able to speak America's common language on the job,'" Alexander said Thursday.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; aliens; congress; eeoc; english; englishonly; immigrantlist; immigration; lawsuit; salvationarmy; senate
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1 posted on 11/15/2007 4:39:28 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Time to light up the phones to get this fixed.


2 posted on 11/15/2007 4:52:24 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: SmithL

3 posted on 11/15/2007 4:53:57 PM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: SUSSA

Time to make English the one official language of this country.


4 posted on 11/15/2007 4:56:07 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: rdl6989

Amen.


5 posted on 11/15/2007 4:58:56 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: SmithL
"I cannot imagine that the framers of the 1964 Civil Rights Act intended to say that it's discrimination for a shoe shop owner to say to his or her employee, 'I want you to be able to speak America's common language on the job,'" Alexander said Thursday.

Some of the scoundrels who framed this POS legislation are still around, including the "main man-atee" himself, Unkkkle Ted. So why don't you 'axe' them? I think you'd be disappointed with their answer, proving the Act was crap to begin with.

6 posted on 11/15/2007 4:59:22 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: SmithL
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7 posted on 11/15/2007 5:06:07 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: rdl6989

Yep!


8 posted on 11/15/2007 5:06:46 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: SmithL

English-only? No. English definitely? Yes.


9 posted on 11/15/2007 5:10:54 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: rdl6989

Libs want to keep the immigrants dumb and dependent. If they are required to learn the language they will catch on to the libs plans for them. Come to think of it maybe not, most will enjoy all the freebee’s they get from thier liberal democratic masters at the expense of the American middle class who has to pay for everything.


10 posted on 11/15/2007 5:17:22 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Id rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
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To: SmithL

There is another winning issue for the GOP. Hope they jump on it.


11 posted on 11/15/2007 5:40:19 PM PST by Uncle Hal
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To: rdl6989

Okay, but official for what exactly? for instance; do you feel it is necessary for federal legislation to be passed that would prohibit businesses from offering application forms or any advertisments in a foreign language? Because that’s how you xenophobic kooks are beggining to sound when you post this kind of nonsensical crap.


12 posted on 11/15/2007 6:47:11 PM PST by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: SmithL
Congress in a tiff over English-only rules

No surprise...


13 posted on 11/15/2007 6:58:39 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: Uncle Hal
Do not get me wrong, I am all for a company's ability to use discrimination when making decisions about its workers (or potential workers) for any reason...to include their political affiliation, sexual preferences, disabilities, etc. I think that participants in the marketplace would punish or reward companies for their decision-making and their discrimination practices; the word "discrimination" is inherently neutral.

But, what you are saying here is that the GOP stepping in, publicly professing to legislating an English-only, prohibiting foreign languages in the course of business, is a winning issue? How does more government and prohibition on freedoms equate to winning? If this kind of sh!t is the modern day conservatism, then this country is going to a have a radical party realignment in the very near future.

14 posted on 11/15/2007 7:29:43 PM PST by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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No. This is about an employer being able to require her employees to speak English, or any other language of her choosing, in the workplace, without fearing the government will sue her for violating equal opportunity laws.


15 posted on 11/15/2007 8:38:20 PM PST by VanShuyten ("Believe me or not, his intelligence was perfectly clear...But his soul was mad.")
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But, what you are saying here is that the GOP stepping in, publicly professing to legislating an English-only, prohibiting foreign languages in the course of business, is a winning issue? How does more government and prohibition on freedoms equate to winning?

So then you support the EEOC lawsuit against the Salvation Army?

16 posted on 11/15/2007 9:02:41 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: SmithL
House Democratic leaders, meanwhile, have promised Hispanic lawmakers that the language issue is a nonstarter ...

I wonder if the people that actually voted these democrats into congress are taking note. Surely the job of congress is not simply to work for a minority of "hispanic lawmakers".
17 posted on 11/15/2007 9:39:30 PM PST by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
No, I do not support the lawsuit. An employer (or a manager acting as an agent of the employer) should be allowed to discriminate. We will see how this plays out for the manager who made the decision -- I think it was pretty stupid but I don't know the full story, background, or if warnings had previously been issued. On its face, this looks ugly.

Let's play devil's advocate though: suppose a manager fired an employee for speaking a foreign language to a customer who did not speak English and the employee was helping make a sale? No, bad example...for the border/immigration crowd, this doesn't take out the raw emotions enough. Okay, lets say its the first Wednesday of November 2008 and two employees are discussing politics while no customers are around and they're stocking shelves within a few feet of one another. They are in celebratory moods because the Republicans have taken back the House and won the presidency one again. But their manager, being a hippie holding onto the past and an avowed far Left Democrat, overhears the discussion and terminates the employees on the spot. The former employees get an attorney because current "laws" have been broken. The MSM does not touch the story but people like the ratings-whore Bill O'Reilly take the story and run with it. How would you feel about a lawsuit in this instance knowing that EEO "laws" are on the books?

18 posted on 11/16/2007 1:23:10 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: VanShuyten

So, if the “required language” in any given workplace just happened to be Spanish, for example, and some English broke out amongst two employees working in proximity to one another while performing a mundane task, you’d support a similar canning Of the employees. Or is it that you’d reject any lawsuit brought on by the former employees whose only thing they had done wrong was to upset their employer by speaking English on the job.


19 posted on 11/16/2007 1:31:16 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: EggsAckley

What does official mean and how encompassing will “official” be? Is this a winning issue. Is this what Jesus had in mind when He asked us to love our neighbor? Can I get an “amen”, please!?


20 posted on 11/16/2007 1:35:24 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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