Man in NLR shot, killed by robbers; stepdad hurt (Cops still can't save you even if present)

Arkansas Democrat Gazette ^ | 15 NOV 07 | dcbryan1

[DCBryan1]

I can't fault the officer, I wasn't there, but this just goes to show you that even when the police are called, and you have the local gov't comes to the rescue, you STILL have to protect yourself until the "cavalry" arrives.

Sad times in Central Arkansas. Little Rock and North Little Rock are getting a new crime wave since all the 10 and 15 year drug felons arrested in the 90s are getting out and, of course, recidivist.

Prayers for the departed and his family/friends.

An agonizing, painful, long death for the perps.

[DCBryan1]

Ping

Self-defense lesson to be learned.

[stinkerpot65]

Not the cops fault. Victim’s fault for not having a gun nearby and using it.

[DCBryan1]

Not the cops fault. Victim’s fault for not having a gun nearby and using it.

EXACTLY!

It is THIS type of thing that liberals don't understand. The police are historians that show up after the crime has been committed IOT investigate and bring justice (and draw chalk outlines of your defensless butt).

It is up to the citizen to protect themselves until the police arrive and hopefully get a chance to rid society of the criminals that prey upon us.

[woollyone]

“As a police officer, you cannot help someone if you yourself get shot or killed,”

First class weaselspeak.

[DCBryan1]

First class weaselspeak.

His quote reminded me of the Littleton, CO police department spokesman as that kid was crawling bloodied out the window onto that armored car.

[RicocheT]

The North Little Rock police actually had a fast response to this 911 call, you shouldn’t blame the officer for requesting backup.

Here in Milwaukee, WI just getting 911 to pick up the call is a wait, then, the police prioritize the response, that means you wait hours for less than a call indicating a killing in progress. For property theft they don’t come, they mail you a form to fill out to make your house insurance claim.

[DCBryan1]

The North Little Rock police actually had a fast response to this 911 call, you shouldn’t blame the officer for requesting backup.

Where in the hell do you see that I blame the officer? My first comment is "I can't fault the officer".

However, the Columbine fiasco was COMPLETELY different. Kids being shot at and not rescued for HOURS.

[wastedyears]

***“As a police officer, you cannot help someone if you yourself get shot or killed,”

First class weaselspeak.***

Agreed

[woollyone]

Yeah, so the cops say something like; “hey we don’t mind showing up ‘n all, but , you’ve gotta be kidding...it’s not like I’m gonna risk gettin’ SHOT fercryingoutloud! I mean...how helpful would we be if we actually got shot!?! Let the citizens get shot up then we’ll help by writing those helpful long pain-in-the-ass reports.”

Reminds me of the photo of WV showing the fatass cops hiding behind the tree while sutudents were being murdered. Real unheroes!

I know shome GREAT LEOs who would risk their lives for others and see it as their duty to risk themselves for the safety of others. So don’t misunderstand my posture as anti-cop, because it isn’t. But to listen to the pantywaist in this article makes me want to puke!

Why show up at all!

[KC Burke]

While I agree that reliance on government is something with great limitations for which a citizen should prepare himself, I also feel that the good conservative value of a society with Order leads us to long for the Texas Ranger style of law enforcement.

That creed was "One Riot, One Ranger" and "They were men who could not be stampeded."

I don't know the circumstances here and law enforcement is taught differently today, but perhaps while waiting for backup, and trying to avoid a hostage situation by encouraging a barracaded group, a middle ground might have been found.

[monday]

““As a police officer, you cannot help someone if you yourself get shot or killed,” Kuykendall said.

Can’t help anyone if you aren’t shot or killed either, so why bother going. Might as well ignore 911 calls from now on Kuykendall.

[LtKerst]

Little Rock...Birthplace of Bill Clinton.

[DCBryan1]

Wrong. Google is your friend.

He was a resident parasite there for years though.

[Albion Wilde]

You have to wonder if the officer used his siren on the way to the site. It could have saved a life by making the perps run off.

[Albion Wilde]

Reminds me of the photo of WV showing the fatass cops hiding behind the tree while sutudents were being murdered. Real unheroes!

Did you mean VT — Virginia Tech? That image was also my enduring shudder from the news coverage.

[Leftism is Mentally Deranged]

That’s why we need the second amendment.

[B4Ranch]

Bisbee, the neighbors said, was mentally “slow” but cheerful and outgoing.

Sorry, but I don't think Bisbee should carry.

[Diamond]

Not the cops fault. Victim’s fault for not having a gun nearby and using it.

It's the victim's fault for getting murdered? Here's a thought: how about blaming the MURDERER?

Cordially,

[DCBryan1]

Bisbee, the neighbors said, was mentally “slow” but cheerful and outgoing.
Sorry, but I don't think Bisbee should carry.

I think "Bisbee" i smarter than most BATFEces agents. Why not trust him with a gun?