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Peeved Patron Plugs Postal Worker (Mailman Delivers Mail Late, Gets Shot)
ABC News ^ | Nov 14, 2007 | The Associated Press

Posted on 11/15/2007 7:05:52 AM PST by DogByte6RER

Peeved Patron Plugs Postal Worker

Resident Shoots Chicago Postal Worker for Allegedly Delivering the Mail Too Late

The Associated Press

CHICAGO

A postal worker in Chicago was shot in the leg late Tuesday after a resident along his postal route allegedly became angry that he was delivering the mail too late.

Police said Denny Robinson, 31, was delivering mail around 6:30 p.m. in Chicago's West Pullman neighborhood when he was shot in the thigh. Robinson was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment for the non-life-threatening injury.

Authorities said witnesses reported hearing a person yelling the postal worker was delivering the mail too late and then heard a shot.

Police News Affairs Officer Tom Polick said nobody could say where the shot came from.

Wanda Shipp of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service said Robinson was delivering mail after the normal 5 p.m. quitting time because Monday was holiday, and volume was heavier than normal.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: goingpostal; gunshot; latedelivery; mail; mailman; postal; tard; usps
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To: DogByte6RER
All I get in the mail is junk. Maybe an occasional renewed credit card or stuff from the DMV that cant be sent electronically.

My power company is the only one that doesn’t do online payments. All my other bills are online.

I empty out my mailbox maybe once a month to get my power bill. The mailman probably hates me. 99% goes right in the garbage.

41 posted on 11/15/2007 8:18:02 AM PST by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: wideawake

They all get taxpayer support for infrastructure - roads, airports, etc.

None get taxpayer money for routine services.

The postal service is reimbursed by the taxpayers for some, but not all mandates - free mailing of material for the blind, overseas ballots, etc, but not, as far as I know, franked mail from politicians.

So if the person receiving the mail is a blind taxpayer, your point is well taken. Otherwise, it is not.


42 posted on 11/15/2007 8:19:08 AM PST by PAR35
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To: DogByte6RER

I’ve had the same post man for 15 years, his name is Mike. How many people get to know their post man?

My mail box is at the street and one year it got knocked down, I couldn’t dig a new hole because the ground was frozen, Mike delivered my mail to the door for a month, he didn’t have to, he could have told me I had to pick it up at the post office.

Furthermore, first class postage at 41 cents is a bargain.


43 posted on 11/15/2007 8:20:06 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: wideawake

Do online statements for credit cards. You can see all new charges instantly and your bill won’t get lost/late in the mail. You can also pay instantly by check and not worry if the payment gets lost in the mail or have to pay to mail it.


44 posted on 11/15/2007 8:22:19 AM PST by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: wideawake
If I receive a credit card statement or other bill that is erroneous and I don't get it until 6:30 PM, quite frequently the creditor's business hours will already be over by 6:30 PM and I will need to wait an extra day to rectify the situation.

Late mail, shoot the carrier? I know you don't agree with that. Occasional late mail is not such a big problem You've been FR a long time, doesn't sound like the wideawake I'm used to reading.

45 posted on 11/15/2007 8:22:46 AM PST by existtoexcel
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To: varyouga
My power company is the only one that doesn’t do online payments. All my other bills are online.

Same here, I wonder why?

46 posted on 11/15/2007 8:24:13 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: wideawake

“If I receive a credit card statement or other bill that is erroneous and I don’t get it until 6:30 PM, quite frequently the creditor’s business hours will already be over by 6:30 PM and I will need to wait an extra day to rectify the situation.”

So? Is it really that hard to wait an extra day?


47 posted on 11/15/2007 8:24:43 AM PST by monday
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To: DocH

Our postal carrier is tortured in the section eight neighborhoods by kids and their parents running up to him asking if they have their check. It will be an ugly day when the checks stop coming.


48 posted on 11/15/2007 8:30:04 AM PST by pterional
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To: wideawake
As you know well the taxpayers do not pay taxes for mail delivery.

As far as "sorting" is concerned, it is necessary for carriers to "sort" mail into their delivery route sequence, or where the mail is already pre-sorted, to insert it into the correct sequence so it is available for delivery in a workable order. They also co-sequence mail of different sizes. Recall from your cubscout tour of a major mail processing center that mail is worked as different types according to size, e.g. letters, flats, SPRs, parcels and outsides.

The consequence is that carriers have what is called OFFICE TIME, and that's where they assemble the mail into cohesive segments for delivery. They also have STREET TIME. Obviously Office Time is going to vary with the mail volume, but Street Time also varies since the carriers need to "finger the mail" to take care of tiny errors made earlier (by them, or by automated mail distribution systems).

We are getting into the Christmas Season so mail volumes ~ particularly advertising ~ is up, and Veterans Day was a regular business day although not a workday for USPS.

In effect this doubled the normal expected mail volume.

This generated additional carrier Office Time and Street Time.

49 posted on 11/15/2007 8:32:45 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: pterional
It will be an ugly day when the checks stop coming.

That won't happen as long as tax takers out number and out vote tax payers.

50 posted on 11/15/2007 8:34:02 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: wideawake
Now, about shutting down delivery to a community after a lunatic's attack on a letter carrier ~ totally separate issue, but USPS does that after a dog attack ~ until everything is "sorted out".

Sometimes the wrong dog is blamed, or the people in the community seek to protect the dog.

Same with lunatics.

51 posted on 11/15/2007 8:34:27 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: DogByte6RER

I read this to my son. He said, (after that) “He possibly didn’t deliver it.” Not a good way to make sure you get your mail.


52 posted on 11/15/2007 8:34:34 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Ancesthntr; grey beard
I once had to handle a complaint a guy made regarding not getting his usual mail delivery on Sunday somewhere in rural Kansas.

That was shortly after USPS was set up to replace the old Post Office Department.

Turned out some people in Kansas got rural delivery on Sunday because their Senator/Congresscritter had "intervened" and convinced POD that they'd best do that or their budget would have trouble from him.

Took a good 15 years to extirpate that sort of garbage from delivery services, but now I think there's delivery only 6 days a week (at most).

53 posted on 11/15/2007 8:40:38 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“Since NONE of the people getting delivery paid for it, what, then, is the equity principle in this case?”

I think you have just discovered a revenue-enhancement tool to better pave the path to equity.

With mailboxes equipped with scales it would be simple enough to weigh each delivery of mail and simultaneously transmit that information to the USPS to then forward to the IRS in the form of a 1099 form to be added to each mailbox holder’s account as imputed income for the year in which the mail was received.

At a mere ten cents per pound it would be nearly invisible to the individual taxpayer but it would put millions of dollars in the national treasury.


54 posted on 11/15/2007 9:05:53 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Someone waiting for a gubmint check, I presume.


55 posted on 11/15/2007 9:07:45 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (1/27 Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: DogByte6RER

6:30 pm is nuttin’ in Chicago. In our Chicago zipcode last spring and summer, it was not uncommon to get our mail at 10:00 or later at night. It was not the carriers’ fault. They USPS had deliberately delayed new hiring and increased the workload. This particular zip code post office also was known as the worst in Chicago for surliness at the counter and messed up administration. The second worst is not far away.

After a lot of complaints, the USPS pledged to jumpstart hiring. And things did improve. Our mail is almost always delivered by 6:30 pm these days!


56 posted on 11/15/2007 9:15:15 AM PST by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: Larry Lucido
Thank you for making me laugh :)

As soon as I saw Newman's mug I knew it had to be a mailmen thread.

57 posted on 11/15/2007 9:26:10 AM PST by MotleyGirl70 (We don’t have borders, we have swiss cheese lines.~~~Go Packers!~~~)
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To: muawiyah

>Since NONE of the people getting delivery paid for it, what, then, is the equity principle in this case?<

The sender paid for delivery.


58 posted on 11/15/2007 9:29:26 AM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: MotleyGirl70

LOL!

“Mail on Sunday”?

“Oops!”


59 posted on 11/15/2007 9:32:03 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: wideawake

Both my husband and I always thank the mailman/woman if we happen to be out when the mail comes. But, I don’t give anything at Christmas (can’t afford it).


60 posted on 11/15/2007 9:32:35 AM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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