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But if you ask me who I want if I have to choose between Hillary and Rudy, its a no-brainer.

Is it? "Not Hillary" sounds like a nice name for a President until you really engage that brain and think about the reality of a President Rudy....

Appointing his personal thugs and union/mobster/thieves to high offices, where they will do their thing, ultimately damaging the credibility of the Republican Party.

Flopping back to his longstanding view that the Congress should pass a law saying we should have to prove that we need a handgun before being allowed to own one.

Where did he think Congress got that power? Lemme guess: the commerce clause.

The next President will be handed a very difficult nation building project in Iraq. Two years later, it will probably still be difficult, and the President's party will suffer in the midterms.

These rather mush-headed people are conditioned to run away from “meanness” or “divisiveness”.

After Hillary screws everything up for a couple of years, Republicans can make gains in Congress. Remember the Republican Revolution in '94?

OTOH, what would Rudy do? Fight for ideas he only recently adopted? Or cower and compromise every time New Yorkers start screaming, "You see! We TOLD you he was mean!"

Last but not least, Republicans seem to me to have forgotten how to question federal spending and executive power grabs, and Rudy will do nothing to rectify that situation. Under President Hillary, some might rediscover the virtues of limited government and separation of powers.

I think Rudy is getting the treatment he deserves here at Free Republic.

Appointing his personal thugs and union/mobster/thieves to high offices, where they will do their thing, ultimately damaging the credibility of the Republican Party.

Sheesh "personal thugs"? You diminish yourself and your argument when you use code pink style rhetoric. Why not just come out and say Rudy is the Anti-Christ? Remember Craig what's his name, the guy with the FBI files? Just the tip of the iceberg of the kind of creeps Hillary will install.

After Hillary screws everything up for a couple of years, Republicans can make gains in Congress. Remember the Republican Revolution in '94?

This is just wishful thinking on your part. That was the product of a perfect storm of stupidity on the part of the Clintoons in their first 2 years in office. They are now a seasoned team of politicians and the MSM is more craven than ever before. With that and the immense numbers of illegal aliens that will probably be able to vote by 2010, I am not at all sanguine about great gains in the midterms.

Under President Hillary, some might rediscover the virtues of limited government and separation of powers.

Huh? I guess you mean that Hillary's brazen attempts to create a Soviet-style command economy, to disband Congress and to install Lesbian Brown Shirt brigades in the Pentagon will touch off a powerful reaction. First of all, let us not rely on her being that stupid. She is from the school of incrementalism. She will make little moves, killing freedom with a thousand little cuts. Second, let us not rely on the American sheeple to care enough to rise up in favor of limited government. Unfortunately, the entitlement system has a vast constituency: every senior receiving drug benefits, medicare and a social security check; every welfare recipient, food stamp recipient, hud housing recipient and a host of other social welfare programs; illegal aliens, who look to the Republicrats in DC to get them a place at the trough; all the government employees whose jobs are dependent on big government; unions (especially teachers), the media and academia. Did I leave anyone out?

For all that you and others say about Rudy, and I fully recognize his deficiencies, he is WAY, WAY, WAY better than that cunning, vicious, lying, phony, ruthless out and out socialist who's great achievement in life is that she enabled the great stainmaker to achieve and hold the presidency. ANYONE BUT HILLARY!!!!