(vanity) Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter

Self ^ | 11/11/07 | Kevmo

[Earthdweller]

"Huckabee came from where Hunter is in the polls to being an actual contender..,"

Another BS ploy....do you not think that Huckabee is getting a little "assistance"? He's a minister for Christ's sake. If he were to be the nominee the Dems would get to see another Katheryn Harris moment.

Warning to all players, you are not talking to a typical sheep, I'm the new BS resistant type.

[John Valentine]

Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter:

Yeah, all $2,777.80 of it.

[Earthdweller]

Our government and political system is in bondage to whatever scum sucking a-hole has enough money to buy his favorite candidate. Does anyone else but me have a problem with that? I’m sick of it. It was never meant to be that way.

[StarCMC]

Interesting — and I’ll send you a freepmail about those links...

[bert]

He has no chance. He is a great unknown blessed with talent but devoid of presidential electability.

[ejonesie22]

Sheesh Kevmo, do you work for Intrade?

I get it, you have posted this ad nauseum and now it deserves it’s own thread?

Fred Foundering, yeah ok fine I think we get it. Bet on Hunter, ok, ok.

You are overplaying this whole thing. Even if it is worth considering it is becoming harder to take seriously since you post it 50 times a thread.

Oh, and putting your own post in as an example of “post you have been seeing”, well I hope you see a post you make...

A vanity indeed...

[Jim Noble]

these are the 2 most conservative candidates in the race.

And therefore the most likely to lose in November.

[Guenevere]

With God all things are possible...

I was encouraging Kevmo because he's sincere and trying to make a difference.

I am beyond disgusted with the 'powers that be' who have tried to ignore the most conservative candidate..running!

This cannot be what our forefathers had in mind!

[Puddleglum]

Hunter talks a good game, and votes well on many issues dear to social conservatives, but he spends like a beltway boy. In addition, his ties to the military industry would have the media digging out stories like this, and more:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/06/new_video_of_pl.html

[normy]

Huckabee came from where Hunter is in the polls to being an actual contender. Do you know how he did it?

By being a pro life liberal, promoted vigorously by the MSM in order to siphon votes from the real conservatives, Fred and Duncan. Freds name recognition will keep him alive until his advertising and debates starts boosting his numbers.

[ejonesie22]

A bit too conspiratorial.

[George W. Bush]

If the smart money is on Duncan, why isn't it showing up in fundraising?

2008 Presidential Election

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Republican Candidates
Candidate	Home State	Q3 Raised	Q3 Spent	Raised	Spent	Cash on Hand	Debts
Romney, Mitt	MA	$18,396,719	$21,301,756	$62,829,069	$53,612,552	$9,216,517	$17,350,000
Giuliani, Rudy	NY	$11,624,255	$13,300,650	$47,253,521	$30,603,695	$16,649,826	$169,256
McCain, John	AZ	$5,734,478	$5,470,277	$32,124,785	$28,636,157	$3,488,628	$1,730,691
Thompson, Fred	TN	$12,828,111	$5,706,367	$12,828,111	$5,706,367	$7,121,744	$678,432
Paul, Ron	TX	$5,258,456	$2,169,644	$8,268,453	$2,824,786	$5,443,667	$0
Brownback, Sam	KS	$925,745	$1,278,856	$4,235,333	$4,140,660	$94,654	$0
Tancredo, Tom	CO	$767,152	$1,209,583	$3,538,244	$3,458,130	$110,079	$295,603
Huckabee, Mike	AR	$1,034,486	$819,376	$2,345,798	$1,694,497	$651,301	$47,810
Hunter, Duncan	CA	$536,357	$618,117	$1,890,873	$1,758,132	$132,742	$50,000
Keyes, Alan	MD	$21,218	$10,139	$22,768	$10,139	$12,629	$12,876

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Duncan's a great guy and everyone here likes him. But fundraising and grassroots support have to count for something.

FWIW, I don't like Iowa's GOP excluding him or any of the others except Keyes (who got in so late and doesn't have a national campaign) or Dr. Klein (who nobody ever heard of outside of Iowa and also has no national campaign).

Before long, conservatives will have to pick one candidate to defeat the leftwing mayor. To do that, many of us may have to accept our guy can't make it. And I'm not saying that to try to get you to support my guy. I'm saying it because this is about whether the Republican party will remain a conservative party or not. To me, that's more important than any candidate, including my own current favorite.

[Earthdweller]

So now "ties to the military" is a bad thing? Out of touch with the grassroots thinking again. Marxist thinking at it's worst.

We have got to start listening to what the people want or this nomination is going to be split ten ways to Sunday. It's already apparent...the endorsements are scattered to the wind.

Hunter is the only candidate that the base can get excited about in mass. The elitists with their delusional political hierarchy requirement are going to force us to lose.

[ejonesie22]

Guenevere I hate to say it, he is not being ignored.

He’s been in the party for a long time, they are not ignoring him, the know him. He’s a great soldier for the cause but unless he can show an ability in the big game, they are not going to promote him over those with a greater range of abilities politically. He’s a great man and a great representative but only a good politician. It’s a political game on the national stage, it takes a great politician or a hell of a lot of luck.

Maybe one day that will change, and we will be better for it, but today is not that day.

[Earthdweller]

"...greater range of abilities politically..."

That's a vague statement...more elaboration is a required. Is it your judgment alone or do you have facts?

[Puddleglum]

Did you get out your home edition of word-twister? No, ties to the miltary industrial gravy train can be a bad thing. Ties to the military and its ethos and spirit of service is an excellent thing. But big military budgets by the Fed Gov are as prone to mismanagement and lobbying shenanigans as any other government spending program.

Military spending is the third biggest line item in the federal budget, after interest on the debt and entitlements. That budget must be carefully managed with an eye to A) taking care of troops during and after their service, and B) ensuring high quality and sufficient quantity in their arms and provisions. It must be protected from undue influence by corporations that would benefit from juicy accounts, whether they delivery quality + value or not.

Military budgets are as susceptible to chicanery as highway funds and Water Resource Development funds.

[Earthdweller]

"Military spending is the third biggest line item in the federal budget, after interest on the debt and entitlements."

That is so not correct.

As far as I can tell..you are either carrying the water for Dems or are buying the Koolaide or both. Entitlements have far outpaced any other spending since at least the 60's.