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House Passes Anti-War Bill
AP via SFGate ^ | 11/14/7 | ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 11/14/2007 7:15:48 PM PST by SmithL

House Democrats pushed through a $50 billion bill for the Iraq war Wednesday night that would require President Bush to start bringing troops home in coming weeks with a goal of ending combat by December 2008.

The legislation, passed 218-203, was largely a symbolic jab at Bush, who already has begun reducing force levels but opposes a congressionally mandated timetable on the war. And while the measure was unlikely to pass in the Senate — let alone overcome a presidential veto — Democrats said they wanted voters to know they weren't giving up.

"The fact is, we can no longer sustain the military deployment in Iraq," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. "Staying there in the manner that we are there is no longer an option."

The White House pledged to veto the bill, and Republicans said they would back the president.

"In addition to infringing upon the president's constitutional authority as commander in chief, the bill would mandate a precipitous withdrawal of troops that could increase the probability that American troops would have to one day return to Iraq to confront an even more dangerous enemy," an administration statement said.

The bill represents about a quarter of the $196 billion Bush requested for combat operations in the 2008 budget year, which began Oct 1.

It would compel an unspecified number of troops to leave Iraq within 30 days, a requirement Bush is already on track to meet as he begins in coming weeks to reverse the 30,000 troop buildup he ordered earlier this year. It also sets a goal of ending combat by Dec. 15, 2008, and states that money included in the bill should be used to redeploy troops and "not to extend or prolong the war."

The measure also would set government-wide standards on interrogation,...

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; aidandcomfort; copperheads; cultureofcutandrun; democratparty; democratscandals; dopeydems; election2008; iraq; supportthemission; supportthetroops; unconstitutional; wot
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To: silent_jonny

it makes me really hate the dems. It would be quite a different story if we were continuing a failed strategy. Yes, for quite some time we were. but now? come on, get with the times.


21 posted on 11/14/2007 7:38:18 PM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: SmithL

One advantage of bringing a few real patriots back home—but only after the mission is completed....


Troops-to-Teachers provides Referral Assistance and Placement services to military personnel interested in beginning a second career in public education as a teacher.

http://www.dantes.doded.mil/dantes_web/troopstoteachers/index.asp?Flag=True


22 posted on 11/14/2007 7:38:35 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: SmithL

I hope they continue to do this. Every attempt at this is another nail in a Democrat’s coffin.


23 posted on 11/14/2007 7:38:55 PM PST by uptoolate (This world is not my home, I'm justa passin' thru.)
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To: ari-freedom

David Dreier did, over and over again. They’re not listening. They don’t know, don’t care and wouldn’t change their minds no matter what.

I just wish more people would watch CSPAN on these occasions.


24 posted on 11/14/2007 7:40:15 PM PST by BelegStrongbow (what part of 'mias gunaikos andra' do Episcopalians not understand?)
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To: SmithL
It passed by just one vote. It will not make it through the Senate.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

25 posted on 11/14/2007 7:41:38 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SmithL; kristinn

Also worth a bump here:


A Message to All the Cut and Run Freepers Currently Polluting Free Republic
Friday, November 24, 2006 | Kristinn
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1743668/posts


26 posted on 11/14/2007 7:41:46 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: SmithL

Do Nothing Nancy is the best thing that ever happened to President Bush.

Pray for W and Our Victorious Troops


27 posted on 11/14/2007 7:42:26 PM PST by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: ari-freedom

This is just for DailyKos/MoveOn crowd. If the ultra-Liberals have any brains (doubtful), then they see that they are being manipulated.


28 posted on 11/14/2007 7:43:01 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: ari-freedom

They don’t want us to win. They are invested in our defeat. They will do their best to make that come to pass.


29 posted on 11/14/2007 7:44:23 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: ari-freedom
The leftists claim to want withdrawal foremost, but it is a lie. More than anything, they want defeat for America. A declaration that the surge has worked, for example, would politically expedite withdrawal, and they should endorse it if their goal really is withdrawal. But they have not, and their goal is not.

Nothing scares the anti-war anti-American movement more than the concept of victory - at their core, most in the "anti-war" movement would prefer to keep the troops in Iraq longer, under conditions ensuring defeat, rather than bring them home sooner under the banner of victory. Most Democrats are resigned to having troops in Iraq beyond 2012 - under conditions precluding anything but the most hollow victory. Not that anyone has their head screwed on straight on the matter.

30 posted on 11/14/2007 7:45:38 PM PST by M203M4 (Rudy Giuliani 2008 - finally get all of the government you are paying for!)
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To: ari-freedom

31 posted on 11/14/2007 7:47:57 PM PST by cartoonistx
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To: SmithL

Glad the do nothing anti-American congress has decided to keep trying for the Guinness Record of negative approval ratings. I don’t know, I just don’t sense their base is really buying it the way they used to.


32 posted on 11/14/2007 8:01:30 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Interesting that the article points out the president is already doing the things this unconstitutional piece of legislation is attempting to force upon him.

It's like Reid trying to take credit for the successful auction of the Limbaugh letter.

33 posted on 11/14/2007 8:06:36 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: svcw
Who were the four republicans that voted for this bill?

Shays - CT
Walsh - NY
English - PA
Jones - NC

How They Voted: Iraq War Bill

34 posted on 11/14/2007 8:11:48 PM PST by SmithL (I don't do Barf Alerts, you're old enough to read and decide for yourself)
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To: All

The way this is playing out is better than I expected. The bill won’t even emerge from the Senate. It is just red meat for Move On. Nancy appears to know she is going to have to pass a funding bill and fund victory.

This is crushing. This is victory. This can generate:

WE REMEMBER WHO PIMPED SURRENDER! pointed right at Hillary all next year as troops are arriving home to victory parades.


35 posted on 11/14/2007 8:18:34 PM PST by Owen
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To: SmithL
The White House pledged to veto the bill, and Republicans said they would back the president.

And they damn well better! Any Republican who doesn't stand firmly with our troops can kiss his/her D.C. seat GOODBYE!

We've HAD it with this crap!

36 posted on 11/14/2007 8:51:23 PM PST by Just Lori (There is nothing democrat-"ic" about democrats.)
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To: SmithL
Seems like I read on another thread that the Donks have passed 40 something bills to influence the War on Terror and none of them has passed.

Let’s see... Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

C’mon Bella... time to get fitted for your new jacket. You know, the padded one with the extra long sleeves that firmly fasten behind your back. Dingy, you’re next.

37 posted on 11/14/2007 8:52:55 PM PST by upchuck (Hildabeaste as Prez... unimaginable, devastating misery! She will redefine "How bad can it get?")
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To: Just Lori

>> And they damn well better!

>> We’ve HAD it with this crap!

Agreed !!!


38 posted on 11/14/2007 8:59:16 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: Owen

39 posted on 11/14/2007 9:03:55 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Heath Shuler voted in favor of a Pelosi-style craven defeat. Of course, you probably already knew that.

Make the coward pay.

40 posted on 11/14/2007 9:07:49 PM PST by JCEccles
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