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Fred Thompson Wants 'No Amnesty'
The Washington Post ^ | November 14, 2007 | Ed O'Keefe

Posted on 11/14/2007 4:56:31 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 11/14/2007 5:12:33 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

It's a big day for political TV ads, and in the case of Fred Thompson, he's got great timing. On the same day Rudy Giuliani releases his first TV ad, and the day Gov. Eliot Spitzer (D-N.Y.) decides to withdraw his plan to give illegal immigrants access to driver's licenses, the former Tennessee senator releases a 30-second spot called, "No Amnesty." It starts airing across Iowa today.


(Excerpt) Read more at blog.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: advertising; aliens; amnesty; borders; criminalaliens; election; electionpresident; elections; eliotspitzer; fred; fredthompson; giuliani; gop; hillary; hillaryclinton; illegalaliens; illegalimmigrants; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; migrants; noamnesty; republicans; rinorudy; rudy; rudygiuliani; sanctuarycities; talkradio; thompson; undocumented; wheresthefence
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To: Petronski

Asked & answered yesterday.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1925179/posts


41 posted on 11/14/2007 6:58:29 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Kevmo

Not a percentage. You’re lying trying to make Fred look bad. These are not polling percentages, they’re futures prices.


42 posted on 11/14/2007 6:58:39 PM PST by Petronski (Willardcare abortions $50 each, $25 per twin. Ask for S&H Stamps!)
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To: Kevmo
Asked & answered yesterday.

Yep, you were lying yesterday, were notified about it, and are still lying about it today.

43 posted on 11/14/2007 6:59:13 PM PST by Petronski (Willardcare abortions $50 each, $25 per twin. Ask for S&H Stamps!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I feel it. I had chills up my spine when I saw the new ad. Fred gives something special in his ads…sincerity and honesty. You can also tell something is in the air by the combative threads. Everyone is beginning to get a little testy for their guy, because they feel it too.

I was with Fred yesterday, I am with Fred today, and I will be with Fred till he and Jeri walk into the White House and give Conservatives a new beginning.

44 posted on 11/14/2007 7:02:17 PM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN "LAZY " GRANDMA FREEPER, and a LOYAL and DEDICATED FredHEAD!)
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To: Petronski

Nope. I was not lying yesterday. So I would invite anyone on this particular thread to check the links and see for themselves. Warts and all. The intrade links are the most interesting.


45 posted on 11/14/2007 7:05:24 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Kevmo

Most certainly a lie. It was only misinformation yesterday, but once you were corrected it and ignored the ccrrection, it became a knowing misrepresentation...i.e., a lie.


46 posted on 11/14/2007 7:07:02 PM PST by Petronski (Willardcare abortions $50 each, $25 per twin. Ask for S&H Stamps!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would say...? That Thompson has probably stalled temporarily the exodus, taken people off guard with the NRTL endorsement and from that maybe one could say a small swing of momentum has opened for him to seize.

The question is how he and the people respond. One I don’t have an answer to. he’s the only one in double digits with fair credibility on WOT, Judges, smaller government and amnesty. His candidacy, in my view, is a test of how just where the conservative movement is right now. I haven’t been pleased with the results to that question so far.


47 posted on 11/14/2007 7:07:35 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Petronski

You’re right. Again. I think that must be the umpteenth time I’ve said that. They’re futures percentages, which have better predictor value than polling numbers. As you have been notified, and have chosen not to engage on the Efficacy thread, even though you chose to post on the thread where Fred once had the lead. That means you simply don’t like what Intrade has to say today, though you once liked what it had to say, and yesterday you called it DATA.

Thanks for bumping this thread.

Fred Takes Lead on InTrade!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1842292/posts


48 posted on 11/14/2007 7:08:31 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Petronski

Most certainly a lie. It was only misinformation yesterday, but once you were corrected it and ignored the ccrrection, it became a knowing misrepresentation...i.e., a lie.
***Not a lie. There you go again.

Thanks for bumping the thread.


49 posted on 11/14/2007 7:09:54 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Kevmo

I’m happy to flag your lies. See you tomorrow.


50 posted on 11/14/2007 7:10:47 PM PST by Petronski (Willardcare abortions $50 each, $25 per twin. Ask for S&H Stamps!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep. The FDT camp was smart to bring up immigration and amnesty, esp. after what we saw in the last Dem debate. Its masterful and I only wish he had done it sooner.


51 posted on 11/14/2007 7:11:03 PM PST by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: Kevmo

Nothing requires me to limit my flagging of your lies to your little Efficacy thread. You’re lying. It’s not a percentage, it’s a future price.


52 posted on 11/14/2007 7:12:01 PM PST by Petronski (Willardcare abortions $50 each, $25 per twin. Ask for S&H Stamps!)
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To: Petronski

Thanks for bumping the thread. Sorry you don’t like what Intrade has to say in terms of the data it points out to folks about your candidate.


53 posted on 11/14/2007 7:12:55 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Kevmo

Intrade doesn’t say what you claim it says. That’s your lie.


54 posted on 11/14/2007 7:13:53 PM PST by Petronski (Willardcare abortions $50 each, $25 per twin. Ask for S&H Stamps!)
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To: Petronski

It’s not a percentage, it’s a future price.
***Asked and answered on that other thread.

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55 posted on 11/14/2007 7:14:49 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: captnorb

This is the first time I’ve felt hopeful about our political process in fifty years. Maybe it really can work the way it’s supposed to, if we can keep these short-sighted ideologues from hogging the road and holding up traffic.


56 posted on 11/14/2007 7:15:00 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: Kevmo

Intrade doesn’t say what you claim it says. You’re misrepresenting the meaning of the numbers. That’s your lie.


57 posted on 11/14/2007 7:15:16 PM PST by Petronski (Willardcare abortions $50 each, $25 per twin. Ask for S&H Stamps!)
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To: devere

Ron f**king Paul rates better?

Puuuulllleeeze.

That’s not aimed at you, rather the morons on intrade.


58 posted on 11/14/2007 7:15:47 PM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: Petronski

Intrade says what it says. People can see for themselves.

My conclusion from Intrade is that Fred is tanking. That’s a conclusion drawn from the evidence, not necessarily a lie because I’m not lying when I say I concluded it.

Thanks for the bump.


59 posted on 11/14/2007 7:16:01 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Petronski

Asked & answered.

Thanks for bumping the thread.


60 posted on 11/14/2007 7:16:51 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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