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Paul Weyrich gives Team Fred a massive opening
The Politico ^ | November 14, 2007 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 11/14/2007 4:30:12 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Responding to the National Right to Life Committee's endorsement of Fred Thompson, Paul Weyrich suggested that Thompson's backers greased some palms.

"I think in all probability the Thompson people were engaged with the National Right to Life people in financial dealing," Weyrich told the Washington Times.

That's a pretty tough charge and almost certainly not what Romney's campaign wanted their big social conservative "get" to suggest (at least not publicly).

Sensing opportunity to win more points from their own big "get" (the group's nod) Thompson communications director Todd Harris unloaded:

"Gov. Romney is new to the pro-life movement and his campaign clearly has a few things to learn about it. First, they should understand that despite their campaign's every effort, groups like the National Right to Life Committee's PAC (NLRC-PAC) cannot be bought. NLRC-PAC is supporting Fred Thompson because of Fred's 100% pro-life voting record. They know he stood with them yesterday, he stands with them today, and he will stand with them tomorrow. It is unseemly for the Romney campaign and its supporters to suggest that NLRC-PAC's coveted endorsement is based on a bribe. Second, this unfounded accusation is as outrageou s as it is ironic, given the Romney campaign's long history of spreading money around to anyone who will take it.

"If the Romney campaign is looking for the reason they did not receive the NLRC-PAC endorsement, they can start with the fact that Gov. Romney was pro-choice just two years ago. They should also consider the fact that Gov. Romney's own health care plan in Massachusetts offers taxpayer funded abortions for a mere $50 co-pay and requires by law that a representative from Planned Parenthood sit on the MassHealth advisory board. Tellingly, Gov. Romney made no such requirement for a representative from the pro-life movement.

"The Romney campaign was clearly hoping for this endorsement and are now clearly upset. But being denied an endorsement is no excuse to impugn the integrity of the very organization they were just days ago trying to woo."

Think he had fun with that one? Romney spokesman Kevin Madden responded by not disavowing Weyrich -- but also avoiding what he said.

"Governor Romney is thankful for the support he has received from pro-life advocates, he respects those that have offered their support for other candidates, and he will continue to work with ALL of the grassroots activists involved in the pro-life movement throughout this campaign," Madden told Jennifer Rubin.


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To: HerrBlucher
"That image reminds of a Freeper but I can’t seem to place his name.

In any case, as Bob Marley says....”excuse my while I light my Spliff”

Believe me, that "Spliff" is well lit, and blowin' smoke all over da place, mon...

81 posted on 11/14/2007 7:40:44 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: Sun

“and conservatives are tougher than liberals. Well, at least some of us are.”


That is twice that you have made that kind of attack, I believe that Duncan would be really annoyed to know how nasty some of his supporters are, he is used to his conservative, largely military and veteran constituency, he might be surprised to learn what kind of people he has picked up now that he is trying for national attention.

It is easy to accept an obsessed supporter of a bottom tier candidate, but is surprising to watch them put such an unlikable face on someone that I know is better than some of his new fans.


82 posted on 11/14/2007 7:44:58 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: Sun
Neither do I! Thank you so much for your depth and insight! I was expecting a little depth in your response, a little rebuttal. My daddy always told me to "never get in a war of wits with an unarmed opponent."

Enough. You will not change my mind and I obviously will not change yours. In the end, WE THE PEOPLE will decide our candidate. Fred Thompson will be that candidate and I hope you will at some point search out the realistic truth.

83 posted on 11/14/2007 7:53:01 PM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN "LAZY " GRANDMA FREEPER, and a LOYAL and DEDICATED FredHEAD!)
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To: ansel12

“After the interview Hugh was getting a little nasty about the organization, one that he had strongly supported until yesterday.”

There are an allfull lot of folks (including myself) that are going to have to eat a bunch of vitriol they have spewed in anger at a later date. That is true of every candidate’s supporters. Kinda sad isn’t it?


84 posted on 11/14/2007 7:54:37 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: topher

Romney ‘became’ whatever it took to get elected in the liberal state of Massatwosh!ts. That means he was pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-gov’t mandated healthcare, etc. He wanted to run for the Pubby nomination in the presidential race so he has tried his darndest to ‘become’ whatecer it takes to fool enough Republican voters into voting for him. Weyrich made a fool of himself by endorsing this liberal and now he shows how his mind has lost its way by making flase accusations publicly. Perhaps the Romney campaign tried to buy the NRTL endorsement and that ticked them off enough to back Thompson. Perhaps Romney bought Weyrich. Who knows. Time will tell, perhaps.


85 posted on 11/14/2007 7:58:09 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Sola Veritas

“There are an allfull lot of folks (including myself) that are going to have to eat a bunch of vitriol they have spewed in anger at a later date. That is true of every candidate’s supporters. Kinda sad isn’t it?”


Not me, I didn’t attack America’s largest prolife group that I had supported until yesterday, just because they didn’t believe some snake oil salesman from Massachusetts, when he tried to convince them that was a true pro-lifer.

Heck I saw through Hugh’s man too and I was evidently correct in my assessment of Fred Thompson, because it matched the conclusion of those experienced political warriors of that giant prolife movement leading organization.


86 posted on 11/14/2007 8:18:17 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: MHGinTN
Weyrich made a fool of himself by endorsing this liberal

Bingo!

and now he shows how his mind has lost its way by making flase accusations publicly.

Bingo again!

Perhaps the Romney campaign tried to buy the NRTL endorsement and that ticked them off enough to back Thompson.

A Bingo hat trick

Perhaps Romney bought Weyrich. Who knows. Time will tell, perhaps.

Fuel injected four Bingo!

You sir are Bingo Starr, yeah yeah yeah!

87 posted on 11/14/2007 8:19:54 PM PST by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: Sun

You’re assuming a lot with what you said in a prior post, that Hunter is the most conservative, the best. Not everyone thinks he is the most conservative or the best candidate. I have no wish to trash the man, but he isn’t the one for the job and you don’t help him by constantly saying how right he is on everything. IMHO he isn’t right on everything.


88 posted on 11/14/2007 8:38:20 PM PST by daylilly
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To: HerrBlucher

Ah, but without proof, I’m merely speculating. I sure have lost all respect for Weyrich.


89 posted on 11/14/2007 8:39:20 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Petronski

Uh-oh....where’s spiff and his spiffy graphics?


90 posted on 11/14/2007 8:47:46 PM PST by KOZ.
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To: KOZ.

ssshhhhh......please don’t wake him.


91 posted on 11/14/2007 8:56:55 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: SergeiRachmaninov

Since you’re on this kick the last couple of days about how you used to be excited about Fred and since changed and are now disappointed, could you show us one post of yours from when you weren’t disappointed with Fred?

Because, I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure I remember you being one of the nastiest, lowest, and most vocal Anti-Fred posters around here pretty much from the getgo.

We do all appreciate you trying to talk sense into the heads of those of us who won’t vote for a certain flip-flopping Massachusetts governor. We really do.


92 posted on 11/14/2007 9:24:18 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (John Cox 2008: Because Duncan Hunter just isn't obscure enough for me!)
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To: ansel12

“Heck I saw through Hugh’s man too and I was evidently correct in my assessment of Fred Thompson, because it matched the conclusion of those experienced political warriors of that giant prolife movement leading organization.”

I was actually speaking in more general terms, not just about the Romney situation. The nasty things folks are saying against other conservative republicans right now in the heat of battle will come back to haunt.

BTW - Is your son still in 10th Mountain or has he moved on or out of the Army? I think the young men and women serving in the military today are a great bunch. It is my privilege to work with them, in the Army, of all ranks. I treat them all with the high respect they rightfully deserve. Hooah! My dad was a WWII vet and I’m a Vietnam era vet (I’m actually still in the USAR - I’m feeling my age). My son is still over 5 years to go until 18, so I’m very thankful to those serving today so my son may get to serve during peacetime. God Bless them all.


93 posted on 11/14/2007 9:32:01 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Blue Highway

Here’s the real reason the National Right to Life Committee didn’t endorse Mitt Romney...

They remember what he did to the last pro-life group that offered him their endorsement, the last time he ran for public office.

Massachusetts Gubernatorial Debate
November 2, 2002

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4

Watch the whole amazing thing, or for the endorsement discussion in particular, fast forward to 3:45 of the video.


94 posted on 11/14/2007 9:36:25 PM PST by AFA-Michigan
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To: AFA-Michigan
The whole thing itself is eye-opening. Either he is a liar or all things to all people, whenever it is convenient for him. The amazing thing is that he was insisting he was is and always will be pro choice and he seemed proud of it. That was only 5 years ago. Where will he be in 2008? I can't honestly say if Kerry flip flopped more than him, but maybe it has more to do with representing Massachusetts. Isn't that also the state Kerry represents in the senate?

That democrat Shannon O Brien filet'ed him fried him and then ate him for dinner. Hillary is much more cunning than that woman and she (Shannon O' Brien-D) made him seem like waffles for breakfast.

95 posted on 11/14/2007 9:58:00 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Sola Veritas

“I was actually speaking in more general terms, not just about the Romney situation. The nasty things folks are saying against other conservative republicans right now in the heat of battle will come back to haunt.”


I don’t understand your question, what other conservative republicans? This race is so bizarre, and the base is so conflicted because Rudy and Romney should not even be here.

The fact that those two men are among the leaders in a republican presidential primary explains that the party and especially conservatism is in disarray, that naturally means bitter fighting among the loyal and those that are determined to replace them.

Things have been going badly for conservatives for some time and the struggle is naturally magnified in this national election where all the elements are in open battle.

This is the old battle of left versus right for control of the national party, the front runners just
haven’t been this left in many years.

As far as being haunted by acts and words during the primary, this is a real fight, we want to identify and permanently eliminate or isolate the posers and the fifth columnists that have haunted us for 10 or 15 years.

When this is over we will know who we are and who is with us, the moderate leaders that shock us when they endorse and support liberals have been weakening our side for years now they are taking a stand, which means their cover is blown.

My son is out and is an artist in New York, hope you enjoy your retirement when it comes.


96 posted on 11/14/2007 10:38:11 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: Sun

Kerry was 4% 21 days before the primaries.


You keep bringing up all the democrats that were at low numbers and came back to win..... I’ve asked you before and you’ve chosen not to respond but show me some Republicans that have done the same thing. Kerry, Carter, Clinton are good examples for the democrats but nothing you’ve ever pointed to shows an example for the Republicans.

48 days..... means not much time left.


97 posted on 11/15/2007 2:23:42 AM PST by deport (>>>--Iowa Caucuses .. 48 days and counting--<<< [ Meanwhile:-- Cue Spooky Music--])
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To: perfect_rovian_storm; SergeiRachmaninov
Because, I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure I remember you being one of the nastiest, lowest, and most vocal Anti-Fred posters around here pretty much from the getgo.

You aren't wrong.

98 posted on 11/15/2007 4:22:55 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Fred '08 Because our troops DESERVE BETTER than Mrs. Bill Clinton.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Since you’re on this kick the last couple of days about how you used to be excited about Fred and since changed and are now disappointed, could you show us one post of yours from when you weren’t disappointed with Fred?

Show me the post where I ever claimed to have been "excited" about Fred. I have been signaling caution from early-on. Sometimes I was snide as Fred continually built up and then disappointed expectations. Other times, I expressed hopefulness and willinging to wait and see...but nothing like "excitement." I was disappointed that Fred proved to be the unprepared, unserious fellow that I feared he was.

I also had not picked a candidate until about ten days ago, largely because I was still waiting to see if Fred would come to life. Finally, I concluded that I was right about Fred, he is a hopeless dud, and picked Romney. (I believe I suffered something like a one-day delusional fit a couple of months back when I thought maybe Newt was the man, since you are so interested in my posting history.)

Show me where I expressed "excitement" about Fred.

It is you Fredheads who have the explaining to do. Many of you clogged these threads with your mindless chants of "Be very afraid" and managed to create a bandwagon for a lazy old guy who wouldn't mind being president if it doesn't interfere with his TV-watching schedule and he doesn't have to spend too much time away from home. We are a lot further from finding a candidate to defeat Hillary than we would have been without this huge Fred distraction.

You better start justifying ~your~ posting history.

99 posted on 11/15/2007 4:32:12 AM PST by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: AFA-Michigan

Watching that, I’m embarassed that I voted for him in 2002...


100 posted on 11/15/2007 4:40:08 AM PST by CatQuilt (aquietcatholic.blogspot.com)
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