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Rudy in Trouble Without Iowa Win (Morris: Mitt to win primaries, but can't win general election?)
Real Clear Politics ^ | 11/14/07 | Dick Morris

Posted on 11/14/2007 6:54:33 AM PST by teddyballgame

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To: Ol' Sparky

Colorado is going Dem, sad to say, but all of the Kalifornians are swamping the State.


81 posted on 11/14/2007 10:44:37 AM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Hey Morris is no dummy. I think he is promulgating the opinion that Mitt “can’t beat Hillary” so she will hope Mitt does get the nomination. But, in fact, I think Morris actually knows that Mitt will beat her.

IOW, he trying to get Clinton off her guard.


82 posted on 11/14/2007 10:47:17 AM PST by Signalman
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To: teddyballgame

I thought Howard Dean was the Dem nominee?


83 posted on 11/14/2007 10:48:22 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Before you get to smug, even Karl (Bastard fmrly known as Magnificent) Rove had Howard Dean as the Dem nominee in 2004.

John French Kerry came out of the nowhere to win in Iowa at this point in time he was at 6% or so in Iowa polls 50 days out.


84 posted on 11/14/2007 10:51:57 AM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: Thud

Morris is smoking dope here.


85 posted on 11/14/2007 10:52:40 AM PST by Dark Wing
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To: Williams
He was governor of ultra left Massachussetts. Reality is that required some liberal positions.

That is the excuse but it doesn't work. Like him or hate him, Ron Paul showed that it is possible to win and win big taking controversial positions that ran against the views of voters (such as opposing NASA and military spending, both extremely popular programs in his district).

86 posted on 11/14/2007 10:59:04 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: teddyballgame
. . .and since Mitt doesn't have a prayer in hell of beating Hillary in a general election. . .

I'm not supporting Mitt in the primary, but it seems to me he has a lot better chance against Hillary than Rudy.

87 posted on 11/14/2007 11:00:33 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: gjones77
So all of the holier than thou posters who refuse to vote for a candidate in the general election because it goes against their “principles” are essentially for for the democrat.

No, we're just against not being able to look at ourselves in the mirror.

88 posted on 11/14/2007 11:01:27 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Plutarch; Williams
Note that Romney does better among women than any other Republican.

Mitt's a very handsome man.
89 posted on 11/14/2007 11:03:41 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: teddyballgame

Romney couldn’t beat Hillary’s foyer carpet if it were hanging on a clothesline.


90 posted on 11/14/2007 11:03:44 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: gjones77
he’d judge you based on the fact you let your principles allow people to come to power who would let islam run rampant over our society

If you think that is going to happen no matter who is the White House, you're delusional.

Moving the Republican party to the left, assuring both parties are advancing liberalism, guaranteeing no conservative President until 2016 and no chance of Republicans taking back congress for at least a decade is what not only unprincipled but stupid. Giuliani in the White House equates to political suicide for the conservative movement.

91 posted on 11/14/2007 11:08:36 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: teddyballgame

“Republicans might recover their senses in time and realize that with Hillary on the ballot for the Democrats (most likely) it is no time to experiment with America’s tolerance and see if a Mormon can be elected president.”

That is the nut of the problem. Romney loses at least 3% (and maybe more) of the evangelical vote right off the top. Mitt can win the nomination, but not the general.

You can call those of us in that 3% bigots and whatever names you want, but we just aren’t going to pull that lever.


92 posted on 11/14/2007 11:08:44 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: Para-Ord.45
Look, Guiliani is foregoing Iowa and NH and is concentrating on running the table in the all the other primaries like Fla. Been done before.

Every Republican nominee has won Iowa or New Hampshire or both since 1968. So, what Giuliani is trying hasn't been done before.

93 posted on 11/14/2007 11:10:56 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: calex59

“If anyone but a conservative is nominated, and that means if anyone other than Fred or Duncan is nominated, then the republicans will lose the 2008 WH vote, no matter who the Dems run as a candidate.

It is time for the RNC to start to realize that and to go back to strong conservative values in a candidate instead of backing Rinos such as Rudy and Mitt.”

That would be my take on it as well. That 3% - 5% that stay home will kill the deal.


94 posted on 11/14/2007 11:14:45 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: MEGoody

So, when Hillary gets elected, institutes national health care, makes private doctors illegal, all but near eliminates the 2nd amendment, gives illegal aliens amnesty, and does all that she can to make home schooling illegal.

When the Democrats have done all they can to eliminate religion from public life, and made sure that they have complete control of your life from cradle to grave, tell me, are you still going to be able to look in the mirror?


95 posted on 11/14/2007 11:14:45 AM PST by gjones77
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To: gjones77
. . .are you still going to be able to look in the mirror?

Yes.

96 posted on 11/14/2007 11:20:35 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: gjones77
I think the real problem for the nation is a democrat in the white house means 20 million illegals will have the right to vote. Convicted felons will have the right to vote. A hillary win guarantees that we won’t see a republican in the white house for a very long time.
If she wins there’s a good chance that we’ll have only 43 or 44 gop senators. The rino’s who are left will cave in and give hillary everything she wants. So in the short term we’re screwed if she wins, and long term we’re screwed if she wins.
The good news is, I don’t she’s got a shot against Romney. He’ll get 55% of the vote against her, because she’s a complete moron and a left wing extremist. It’ll be difficult to mask her Marxist tendencies, Bill could because he was a charming guy. Not hillary. And she’ll continue to rub people the wrong way, make herself look petty and small because that’s who she is. And no amont of good pr from the liberal media can cover that up.
97 posted on 11/14/2007 11:22:09 AM PST by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: gjones77

“When the Democrats have done all they can to eliminate religion from public life, and made sure that they have complete control of your life from cradle to grave, tell me, are you still going to be able to look in the mirror?”

A Hillary presidency would implode a la Elliot Spitzer. A RINO candidate just makes us a frog in a slow boiling pot.


98 posted on 11/14/2007 11:23:53 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: elizabetty
Exactly, and many women don't want to vote for her at all and want another option. Mitt polls very well with those women. We can peel them away from Hillary.

Another reason Mitt is THE ONE who can beat Hillary.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?id=33679

99 posted on 11/14/2007 11:26:55 AM PST by redgirlinabluestate (Common sense conservatives UNITED behind Mitt 2 defeat Rudy and then Hillary)
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To: mainerforglobalwarming
The good news is, I don’t she’s got a shot against Romney. He’ll get 55% of the vote against her, because she’s a complete moron and a left wing extremist. It’ll be difficult to mask her Marxist tendencies, Bill could because he was a charming guy. Not hillary. And she’ll continue to rub people the wrong way, make herself look petty and small because that’s who she is. And no amont of good pr from the liberal media can cover that up.



Mrs. Clinton Lacks Bill's Talent
100 posted on 11/14/2007 11:35:25 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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