Posted on 11/13/2007 8:10:28 PM PST by neverdem
They come to school with all different kinds of ideas, different discipline. habits etc.
Some wiggle, some giggle, some tap, some yap.
All you have to do is go to a Board Meeting where some wiggle, some giggle, some tap, some yap.
My son's doctor told me this years and years ago, it is particularly the parts of the brain that control impulsiveness and direct organization. Doc also said that puberty would hasten brain development.
He was right. My son is off medication and doing much better. And not a flippin' moment too soon, believe me! Anybody who doesn't believe ADHD exists, I got Exhibit "A" that sez you're wrong. (I used to think it was a made-up disorder, too. Now I just think it's over-diagnosed.)
One day in 6th grade me and a friend took over the entire 500 hall wing, maybe 24 or 30 classrooms. That was also the wing where all the school busses unloaded.
I had gotten there early and something hit me and I slipped something in each set of the entrance doors at each end of the building, and we held on until well after school had started. It was a heck of a scene with many hundreds of people involved and I have rarely if ever seen so many adults so angry.
For better or worse I ended up at freerepublic and my friend was gunned down at 19.
Exactly. For children, one size does not fit all. One of the great things about this nation is that you can be a late bloomer. It isn’t already decided from the time you are in kindergarten what you are going to be in life. Individuality. It’s a wonderful thing.
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Yes!
Amen! All through school, everyone was telling my hubby that he should consider himself lucky to one day be the assistant to the assistant garbage collector.
Even when I met him in college,where he was an aimless music performance major, those who knew him would have thought he'd probably end up starving.
It was only after I asked him what he wanted to do that he confessed he liked electronics, but was told he wouldn't be able to handle the math. I encouraged him to give it a shot and helped him learn to study. He finished tech school and then went on to engineering school, and is a truly brilliant engineer.
Now HE is the one who helps our daughter with her calculus.
Thanks.
What a stupid article. Of course bad behavior doesn’t doom one’s educational outlook. If so, we’d have been doomed long ago.
Kids are kids.
The sky is falling in!
They would have every student quietly and attentively sitting at their desks, doing without question or comment what is required of them. Never mind that kids are made to move.
Many kids are bored out of their minds in school, too, and will do ANYTHING to break that boredom.
Instead of looking at kids who act up as troublemakers heading for JD, they should stop and see the potential all that unbridled energy and creativity has and see how they can encourage the kids to develop it, instead of trying to squash it.
Why the heck do they need studies to show the obvious? Sheesh, every time I read one, I keep thinking that there can't be an easier way to make money and I picked the s wrong path.
thanks neverdem. Here’s a different, somewhat related article:
Study Compares States’ Math and Science Scores With Other Countries’
[Some surprises...]
NY Times | November 14, 2007 | SAM DILLON
Posted on 11/14/2007 3:23:57 AM EST by Pharmboy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1925485/posts
The FP, my wife worked for as an office nurse, refused to put boys on drugs for the teachers in just under 3 decades of office practice.
His comment to the whiney female teachers, “If you and Ritalin were around when I was a young boy, I wouldn’t be a doctor today!”
All of the young boys, he refused to dope up are functioning adults today, many with advanced degrees or are highly skilled so called blue collar workers. They are bears like him when the whiney female teachers want to drug their sons.
Why did you write that? Read the first three paragraphs again. The article tries to kill two sacred cows of the educational and psychology/psychiatry establishments, i.e. untoward behavior means poor academic achievement and that symptoms associated with ADHD/ADD should be medicated.
Of course bad behavior doesn’t doom one’s educational outlook. If so, we’d have been doomed long ago.
Tell that to the behavior control freaks. That's what these two studies were trying to do.
Going to school now must be truly awful. I don't know if I could take it. I'm surprised that there are not more school shootings, a entirely recent development that didn't happen before a decade ago, i.e. the kids didn't go psycho before the late 1990s.
You’re welcome.
I tried to make that link open on the comment with the links to the abstracts. I can’t tell for sure from my end. It seems to open on the links when the new, small window opens on the new thread, but it looks off when the new window is fully expanded.
Any technical comments or criticisms will be appreciated.
The finding itself is what makes the study stupid. It’s a kind of ‘No, really?’ impulse.
The finding’s true. Of course. That a study was issued to try and prove otherwise is what’s stupid.
At an assembly in the local public high school, seniors were told they could not conspire to wear the same color on the same day, as classes before them had done (go figure).
Extreme circumstances warrant extreme actions. One of the smartest kids in the bunch listened, stood up amidst his classmates, held up high a bound copy of the Constitution and shouted, “That’s against the Constitution!!!” A near-riot ensued.
Eventually, he won because he was right, and his action was necessary; even if viewed as a behavioral ‘problem’ by some.
Forgot to mention, the brave “bad behavior” kid was accepted at a few northeast Ivies, and went on to the University of Chicago.
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