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PBS Telling Teachers to Violate First Amendment, Group Says
CNSN News ^ | November 13, 2007 | Randy Hall

Posted on 11/13/2007 1:40:53 PM PST by yoe

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To: Alter Kaker

Ahh, no. Those are nice independent species. Pretty big gap from 1.6 million years ago to homo erectus not to have found any in between. I guess they all died in one spot and we haven’t found it yet.


61 posted on 11/13/2007 3:00:58 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: afnamvet

>>All the lawyers, teachers and others who embrace Darwinism and evolution in their dying moments will see one of God’s creations for themselves. It is hell.<<

You know, when God acts, it is often within natural mechanisms. He doesn’t create each new tree there is a mechanism by which they propagate and grow.

I have a hard time believe God would send people to Hell for observing the evidence that life started on Earth billions of years ago and developed.

And even if he is sending people to Hell for that, its not nice to happy about it.


62 posted on 11/13/2007 3:01:38 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Resolute Conservative
Pretty big gap from 1.6 million years ago to homo erectus

And every time a new human ancestor is discovered, the gaps get smaller. Is that what you believe, a God of the gaps?

My God is a little bigger than that, but then I accept evolution.

63 posted on 11/13/2007 3:05:06 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Resolute Conservative

>>All the fossil we have found and I still can’t find that darn missing link one for any transitional species type.<<

How many fossil species have you studied?


64 posted on 11/13/2007 3:05:15 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: afnamvet
Do you think you know who is going to heaven and who is going to hell?

Do you know what the word "blasphemy" means?

Just wondering...

65 posted on 11/13/2007 3:06:03 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: yoe
Yes, I know PBS is a load in the pants, but worrying about so-called Intelligent Design when there 100 million people who want to kill us because we are infidels is like arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
66 posted on 11/13/2007 3:08:10 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: yoe

When and how did the Federal Government or the SuprremeCSourt get the power to decide how the states should run their schools? I don’t see it in the Constitution.


67 posted on 11/13/2007 3:11:06 PM PST by StormEye
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To: Alter Kaker
"Do you think you know who is going to heaven and who is going to hell?"

That's a pretty pathetic question. Do you always go after those you feel are your inferiors because they are easy prey. Why didn't you respond to my post?

68 posted on 11/13/2007 3:11:24 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: kevinm13
PBS should have it public funding pulled and should be independent

If PBS was no longer Federally Funded it would revert to "dead air"!

69 posted on 11/13/2007 3:15:10 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: allmendream

How about allowing the scientific evidence that is unfriendly toward evolution? In fact how about allowing the evidence to be examined.


70 posted on 11/13/2007 3:16:45 PM PST by Aloysius88 (I used to be the different drummer.)
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To: yoe

All this driving along life’s road arguing about what we see in the cosmic rear-view mirror is going to seem pretty danged foolish when we run smack into the future we never saw coming.

Perhaps this point is just so obvious that it’s never been considered, but there is no tangible difference between Creationist matter (whether old or young Earth), Evolutionist matter, and I.D. matter. The preception of difference lives only in the grey matter of the various minds holding to the various views, and that is precisely what is the matter. The abject failure to allow that the matter one holds in one’s hand remains as it is without regard to the cosmology subscribed to by the attached brain; the rabid insistence that scientists are wholly calssifiable by cosmology; that scientists who like THIS cosmology are “good”, but those who like THAT cosmology are “bad”; is the nasty, rancid core of the whole crevo debacle.

So much time, money, and energy wasted going around, and around, plotting and planning character assassinations, destroying people’s careers, mounting endless ad hominem attacks, ...

...all of science itself is wholly debased by the collective behavior.

On ALL sides.

ALL need to go to separate corners and wear the pointy hats until they can commit to speaking and acting as functional adults, instead of adult-aged toddlers.

Oh, and in case the inherent point was missed, SHUT UP until then.


71 posted on 11/13/2007 3:17:39 PM PST by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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To: Earthdweller
Why didn't you respond to my post?

Because your post said exactly what my post said.

Spinoza's beliefs are a bit complicated, but he was essentially an atheist who believed that nature had an abstract spiritual essence. That pretty closely reflects Einstein's views. Spinoza, FYI, was excommunicated by the Jewish community for his atheistic beliefs.

72 posted on 11/13/2007 3:18:47 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Aloysius88
How about allowing the scientific evidence that is unfriendly toward evolution?

Such as?

In fact how about allowing the evidence to be examined.

Submit scientific evidence "unfriendly toward evolution" to a peer-reviewed scientific journal and it will be examined. You're free to do so at any time.

73 posted on 11/13/2007 3:20:22 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
Ok...there is a difference between a personal God and a Creator. I suggest you go do a little research about different religions before you start disputing them.
74 posted on 11/13/2007 3:24:30 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller
Ok...there is a difference between a personal God and a Creator.

Correct. And Einstein believed in neither. "My position concerning God," he said, "is that of an agnostic."

I suggest you go do a little research about different religions before you start disputing them.

And I'd suggest you know perhaps a little less about this topic than you think.

I happen to believe in God; my faith in God isn't shaken because I recognize that Einstein wasn't a believer. There are things that I believe in that Einstein didn't, with quantum theory somewhat near the top of the list; there are also things that Einstein believed in (like socialism) that I have little use for.

75 posted on 11/13/2007 3:33:54 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Aloysius88
How about allowing the scientific evidence that is unfriendly toward evolution? In fact how about allowing the evidence to be examined.

Why don't you present it for us?

Then, maybe you can tell us about the scientific evidence that supports intelligent design?

76 posted on 11/13/2007 3:36:49 PM PST by Amelia
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To: TalonDJ
Sure, then solve the debate in the way science always works

Already been done, and still being done.

77 posted on 11/13/2007 3:39:18 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I’ve been challenged here locally by several anti-religious twits on the subject of Intelligent Design. I always point out to them the reason I believe there is intelligence behind the design is that no matter how many times you drop a Home Depot store from a mile in the air it will never land as a fully functional home. It will always end up as a pile of rubble because there is no intelligence guiding how the pieces land.

Usually shuts ‘em up.


78 posted on 11/13/2007 3:41:35 PM PST by West Texas Chuck (US out of the UN - UN out of the US)
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To: yoe

But its ok to dress kids up with rags on their heads and discuss sharia law for a whole week.


79 posted on 11/13/2007 3:48:46 PM PST by omega4179 (fred08 dot com)
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To: Alter Kaker

Closer to correct...he was a gnostic. Spinozism is the pantheistic philosophical system of Baruch Spinoza which defines God as a singular self-subsistent substance, and both matter and thought as attributes of such. Spinoza claimed that the third kind of knowledge, intuition, is the highest kind attainable. This is in keeping with the thinking of the illuminate....which believes the upper level of human intelligence is essentially fluent with God and the Universe.


80 posted on 11/13/2007 3:50:32 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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