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According to Polls, Fred Thompson Foundering
Wash Post ^ | 11/13/07 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on 11/13/2007 11:13:48 AM PST by pissant

The American electorate is a fickle mistress. Just ask former Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.).

When Thompson announced his candidacy for president just after Labor Day most national polls showed him running a close second behind former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and the majority of state polls had him in the top three.

No longer. Thompson's campaign has yet to take off as expected and voters -- especially in crucial early states like Iowa, New Hampshire and Florida.

The most recent data comes from New Hampshire where two surveys were released over the weekend. The first, conducted by theUniversity of New Hampshire for the Boston Globe, put Thompson in sixth (yes, SIXTH) place with just three percent of the vote. (Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney led the way with 32 percent.) In a Marist University poll Thompson again took sixth place with just five percent support. To be clear, Thompson was never a frontrunner in New Hampshire but polls conducted in the run-up to his announcement and just after he formally entered the race show him regularly polling in double digits.

Thompson's shrinking support is apparent in other early states as well. The last three polls taken in Iowa put Thompson in fourth, fifth and fourth place, respectively, and his high water mark in any of those surveys is 11 percent. In Florida, too, Thompson appears to be fading. A new poll conducted for the Miami Herald and St. Petersburg Times showed Thompson in fifth place (eight percent) behind Giuliani (36 percent), Romney (19 percent), Arizona Sen. John McCain (12 percent) and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (nine percent).

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; axisofdesperation; chriscillizza; elections; flounder; fred; fredthompson; halibut; pissanthropy; postcardfromoblivion; thinningtheherd
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To: processing please hold; pissant
Paul, the one who has spammers working outside the country to lift him in the polls? The 9-11 truther Paul?

Yes, THAT Ron Paul. He still beats DH, even in the "real" polls.

61 posted on 11/13/2007 11:43:47 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

But “can win” is THE issue...


62 posted on 11/13/2007 11:44:18 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

One simple reason. Most people that learn about Hunter understand that he is superior to the others. In some cases by a very, very wide margin.


63 posted on 11/13/2007 11:44:19 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: matthew fuller

Is Hunter ahead of Paul yet?
***Over at Intrade, Ron Paul is beating Thompson. If your guy is so great, why isn’t he beating Paul? You can’t say he doesn’t have name recognition, so then what is the problem? Thompson may have a problem that cannot be corrected. Hunter’s name recognition problem is slowly being corrected.

2008.GOP.NOM.PAUL
Ron Paul to be the Republican Presidential Nominee in 2008 M 6.7 7.9 7.0 74407 -1.0
2008.GOP.NOM.MCCAIN
John McCain to be the Republican Presidential Nominee in 2008 M 7.1 7.5 7.3 150547 +0.2
2008.GOP.NOM.THOMPSON(F)
Fred Thompson to be the Republican Presidential Nominee in 2008 M 6.1 6.9 5.9 92464 0

One thing prediction markets are better at — their only bias is whether someone can make money trading the futures contracts.

The Efficacy Of Prediction Markets
The Liberty Papers ^ | November 8, 2007 | Brad Warbiany
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922961/posts

Posted on 11/08/2007 12:21:43 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum


64 posted on 11/13/2007 11:44:40 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: kevkrom

Yes indeed...


65 posted on 11/13/2007 11:44:41 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: rightinthemiddle
I like Duncan Hunter a LOT...but he’s not going to win the nomination. I wish it wasn’t so.

Me too but I agree with your assessment. DH just hasn't established a profile save among the true political junkies. But who knows, no votes have actually been cast yet, and at this time in 2004 Howard Dean was the presumptive Dem nominee and look what happened to him.

It does seem that there are daily stories in the MSM dissing FDT.. maybe they really are afraid of him?

66 posted on 11/13/2007 11:45:31 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: ejonesie22

Fred is in the middle of a purse fight with the other moderates. It’s ripe for Hunter. And its time to harvest.


67 posted on 11/13/2007 11:46:12 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
Washington Post:

"According to Polls, Fred Thompson Foundering"

Fred is the one they fear.

68 posted on 11/13/2007 11:46:42 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: pissant

Go, FRed, GO!!


69 posted on 11/13/2007 11:47:07 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Petronski

Unlike the last time we went round on this, it is not a typo with a claim to being a poll. It is an Intrade link.


70 posted on 11/13/2007 11:47:13 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: pissant
One simple reason. Most people that learn about Hunter understand that he is superior to the others. In some cases by a very, very wide margin.

And who would these "most people" be? Your family members?

All is not lost, however. I'm sure Duke Cunningham can find a way to infuse some cash, if you ask him.

71 posted on 11/13/2007 11:47:23 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
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To: DustyMoment

The folks that ‘drafted’ him should have put their efforts into supporting Hunter and avoided this embarrassment. But there is still time.


72 posted on 11/13/2007 11:47:41 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Good luck with that.

IMHO the only winner if that were true would be Huckabee...

Again, Hunter is barely moving if at all...


73 posted on 11/13/2007 11:48:36 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

LOL. Yep, still waiting for that indictment, I see.


74 posted on 11/13/2007 11:48:39 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT


75 posted on 11/13/2007 11:48:47 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Rummyfan

They used to be afraid of FDT. Not anymore. The “lazy” label has stuck.


76 posted on 11/13/2007 11:49:15 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: ejonesie22

Except, as Fred pointed out, Huck is a pro-life liberal.


77 posted on 11/13/2007 11:49:22 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: colorado tanker

colorado tanker wrote: “BTW, my congrats to the headline writer. Any more, most people wrongly use “floundering” instead of “foundering.””

foun·der
1. To sink below the surface of the water: The ship struck a reef and foundered.
2. To cave in; sink: The platform swayed and then foundered.
3. To fail utterly; collapse: a marriage that soon foundered.

floun·der
1. To make clumsy attempts to move or regain one’s balance.
2. To move or act clumsily and in confusion.

Seems to me either could be used correctly for this headline.


78 posted on 11/13/2007 11:50:00 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: Jim Robinson

No Fred No!

http://duncanhunter2008.us/Hunter-Thompson%20flyer.pdf


79 posted on 11/13/2007 11:50:10 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Yes, and he is still ahead of Hunter...


80 posted on 11/13/2007 11:50:23 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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