Posted on 11/12/2007 10:07:52 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE
CO2 IS a vital part of the GHG total: water vapor accounts for 90% of the total GHG’s effect. Man-produced CO2, nitrogen oxides, and methane accounts for only 0.28% of the EFFECT of all GHG’s: that factor takes into account the relative values of water vapor, methane, and the other gasses.
The National Geo article explicitly says CO2 is the most important GHG - and it is NOT. Furthering their lie/exaggeration, they directly imply that man-induced CO2 is the direct cause of today’s 1/2 of one degree change. What’s the BS?
CGM’s are critical to the AGW’s extremists because they are the ONLY source of an extremist’s ability to alarm the public, build empires, and get trillions of dollars.
Actually they are well overlapped which when combined with the relative frequency of CO2 and H2O molecules is why CO2 is an even weaker GHG than at first glance.
I still don't see it...please paste the quote.
Face facts...you can’t stop this mass movement.
Read up on Eric Hoffer’s book...Mass Movements. Going back over twenty-five years...the environmentalists have banded themselves under a umbrella, and with the aide of dimwit politicians and the media...they are basically challenging any truth that we can toss at them. We could have absolute evidence in hand that solar activity is the one and only trigger to global climate changes...and it wouldn’t matter.
This is why the mess before us...preparing to consume vast amounts of our personal and national wealth...leaves us in a stage of suffering and woes. We have American citizens who have no problem in taxing us...and giving the wealth collected to some third world country...in the interest of carbon credits. The only possible method of halting this mess...is to actually have a bigger mess at our front door...such a major meteor strike wiping out 300,000 people and creating an actual real “winter” for the entire earth. To think in this type of logic as a way of stopping the environmentalists...is absolutely madness, but we have virtually no way of stopping them....not even the truth.
So the stars (sun) do effect our destinies. Must start reading astrology section in the paper.
But man's actual TOTAL greenhouse gas impact (concentration times real effect) = 0.28% of all greenhouse gasses. Water is both the largest contributor by volume and by total impact: but the AGW alarmists don't want to mention that inconvenient fact.
Please check out #38 again. I'm sure you understand the concept of a differential change versus absolute values.
A greenhouse gas, carbon dioxide traps solar heat in Earths atmosphere. The gas is known as the biggest contributor to global warming of the planet.
That phrase says exactly what I claimed: They are claiming CO2 (specifically implying man-released CO2) is the biggest greenhouse gas. CO2 is NEITHER the biggest GHG, nor is man-released CO2 the biggest GHG.
You're twisting their words and trying to claim that "Biggest Greenhouse Gas" = "Biggest Contributor to Global Warming," while I'm sure you realize they don't mean the same thing.
Obviously, "Global Temperature Increase" would be a better term than "Global Warming," so the differential is emphasized, but the definitions are accepted. Even though I disagree with the IPCC on whether or not indirect effects should be included in the term "Radiative Forcing," their definition is standard and it's silly to just argue the definition as if that means making a point about the real world. Define things as you want, but they didn't claim that CO2 has a greater greenhouse effect than water vapor.
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