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To: Quix

It is useless arguing against them. They will be breaking out their pictures of groundhogs with foil on their heads from now until doomsday.

As sad as I have been lately, I pity people so limited.

Either God and the Universe is way more fantastic than we know, or even can know, or

we are just a bunch of atoms with no purpose.


422 posted on 12/04/2007 2:41:32 AM PST by djf (Send Fred some bread! Not a whole loaf, a slice or two will do!)
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To: djf

It is useless arguing against them. They will be breaking out their pictures of groundhogs with foil on their heads from now until doomsday.

As sad as I have been lately, I pity people so limited.

Either God and the Universe is way more fantastic than we know, or even can know, or

we are just a bunch of atoms with no purpose.

= = =

EXTREMELY WELL PUT. THANKS.

Though maybe too often . . . I get hooked toying with them or even contending with them . . . or worse being annoyed, irritated by them.

But your exhortation will be helpful. Thanks.

I think I used to get most annoyed at their capacity to keep the more informed amongst us from discussing the topic seriously. THANKFULLY, that has waned in recent weeks and months. I don’t know if that’s because more serious folks are stepping up to the plate to state their opinions or if the jerks are getting bored.

Either way, it’s welcome. Though I do wish more serious folks would step up to the plate.

By the time things are overtly OUTTED, it will be too late to do the . . . wise analysis in preparation.


423 posted on 12/04/2007 2:56:58 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: djf; Las Vegas Dave; SunkenCiv

MORE ATS GLEANINGS:

patent of interest . . .

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread319001/pg1

SOURCE:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=7,282,727&OS=7,282,727&RS=7,282,727

Electron beam directed energy device and methods of using same

Abstract
A method and apparatus is disclosed for an electron beam directed energy device. The device consists of an electron gun with one or more electron beams. The device includes one or more accelerating plates with holes aligned for beam passage. The plates may be flat or preferably shaped to direct each electron beam to exit the electron gun at a predetermined orientation. In one preferred application, the device is located in outer space with individual beams that are directed to focus at a distant target to be used to impact and destroy missiles. The aimings of the separate beams are designed to overcome Coulomb repulsion. A method is also presented for directing the beams to a target considering the variable terrestrial magnetic field. In another preferred application, the electron beam is directed into the ground to produce a subsurface x-ray source to locate and/or destroy buried or otherwise hidden objects including explosive devices.

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MANTA RAY CRAFT REPORT FROM 1971 EXPERIENCE:

http://iwasabducted.com/archives/abductionboard/archive1/messages/84.html

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread319010/pg1

SOURCE DOC:

Basic Report; Manta Ray shaped U.F.O. 1971


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Posted by Vidimagic (12.161.193.170) on November 05, 2001 at 22:17:41:

The Black Manta Ray U.F.O.
(Incident at Crow Creek August, 1971)
Abductee; John R. Renz Ex-Airman U.S.A.F. 1971.

In 1971 I was in the U.S. Air Force stationed at Francis E. Warren Air Force Base in Cheyenne, Wyoming. At that time I was just an E-2. In the month of August an event took place that changed my life forever. An event that I kept a closely guarded secret for just over 30 years until I couldn’t handle the psychological anguish that came with it. I will not elaborate on all details. I will keep the names of certain individuals out to protect them. The ones that helped me.

August 16, 1971 was on a Monday. After doing my routine duties and got off duty at 5:00 P.M. I headed for the chow hall. After that I left the chow hall heading north on Randell Ave. It was starting to get dark. Happy Jack Road is State Route 210. It is on the base. I followed it and then came to Crow Creek Bridge. (dark now).

As I approached the bridge (no street lights-open country) I didn’t notice how deadly quiet it was. Approximate time was between 7:30 and 8:00 P.M. . When I got on the bridge and right at the middle this very bright light came on from above me. Its contrast was like a light bluish white. You could see like fog arising from the bridge and the light lit up the whole bridge. The next thing I knew the bridge seemed like it was being raised upward in a wave motion and set back down. After that is when I heard a very heavy breathing and heart beat. the heart beat was probably my own but the heavy breathing wasn’t mine.

I took off running and dropped my corn cob pipe where I had started running from. Just before I got to the end of the bridge, and still to this day I don’t know. I turned around and went back to retrieve my pipe. The whole time the bridge was lit up. As I found my pipe I stooped down to get it and looked up. There it stood not more that three feet away from me. I jumped to a half standing position and both me and the being stared at each other. The being motioned It’s right arm as if it wanted for me to come with it or come closer.

I totally panicked when I saw its three fingers and how scaly it’s fingers were. The being had on what looked like a silver gray body suit on. The head was covered with a helmet that had what looked like a blast shield of some kind. I’ll never forget it. There was a tube that went from the front of the helmet were the mouth would be and went into the chest area. It looked like a trake tube. I turned to my left to run as fast as I could and next thing I remember was that I had run out in front a jeep with three airmen in it. The gap is that I have no memory of running off the bridge itself, nor running the fifty feet of road from the bridge to the cross road. Where the airmen were traveling in the jeep. After I had run in front of the jeep I ran to the barracks and ran up to an airman who was throwing a trash bag in the dumpster. I grabbed his arm and asked him if he saw the thing on the bridge. He replied no. I remember very distinctively what time and day it was. He looked at his watch and told me that it was 02:00 Sunday morning. I told him that couldn’t be right. He showed me his watch and told me that I looked like hell. And he walked away. At that time I noticed that I stank, I had a beard, my fatigues looked like I had been sleeping in them with out changing. I ran up stairs to my dorm room and locked myself in. I picked up a club and went to the window parting the blinds and was looking down in the direction of the bridge. After the O.C. unlocked my door some airmen apprehended me and took me down the stairs to the M.P.s that were waiting for me. The M.P.s took me to the base hospital.

At the hospital I was taken to a small room that was approximately 12 X 15. The only thing that was in there was a chair, a table with cabinet on it. The doctors that came in did not examine me as normal doctors would. They had a nurse come in and take seven small vials of blood. And give me a liquid to drink, It was suppose to be a sedative to calm you down. But what sedative has a minty taste to it? I do remember drinking it but nothing much except answering some questions and being told by the doctors to keep looking at the floor. The next thing I remember is that the fuel section sergeant came to the hospital to take me back to the barracks. After that I have some memory of what happened, what I did as far as duties. That is until my discharge on September,20,1971.

During my discharge the base attorney told me that in time I would remember what I couldn’t then. He was right. He knew something and wasn’t telling me back then. Years came and went. Then the flashbacks and nightmares came progressively with time.

Back on the bridge when I turned to run I was stopped and taken aboard the manta ray shaped ufo. I remember being in this small cubical like no bigger that a storage area. I remember looking through the window of it and this is what I saw. As I looked out through the window I saw this creature at a control panel. When I looked past the creature I realized that I was looking at clouds below. And you could see some rainbow to them. Then everything goes blank. The next thing I remember when I opened my eyes again was that we were going down through some clouds that were like a reddish brown in color. Then everything goes blank. When I regained consciousness This being and I were walking out from under this craft. I remember looking up and seeing the texture of its covering. It looked like it was covered with multi lenses andthe main color of the craft was dark gray. very dark gray, almost to a black color. The being ( speaking to me mind to mind) had me go into this room that was small and in it was a table that floated. On this table was a courpse. I never saw anything like before. The head was larger than ours by comparison and it had the face like a wasp.

The eyes were covered with some kind of covering that had multi lenses. The pupil was like a slit that looked like it was suspended by somekind of cord or something. It definitely had an exoskeleton that was pliable and had a oily like feeling to it. You could see the hands had what looked like three fingers and what looked like a thumb at it’s wrist. The length of the dead creature was about four feet.

The color of the corpse was a light tannish but darker where the joints where the scales joined. It also had a bluish gray color to it. A liquid was dripping from the hole that went through it’s chest. The liquid had some dark reddish brown and clear liquid in it. You could see through the hole in it’s chest. The smell was horrible. It smelled like sulphur and rotten eggs.

The being had me exit the room where the corpse was and go out side. After being sick to my stomach from the horrid smell of the corpse I noticed that the air there seemed to have a lot of oxygen in it. Then the being took me around the hill side and there it set. The most awesome craft I had ever seen. It was huge, very huge. As I looked at it as we were walking toward it I noticed that it was the same color as the other one.

Description of craft; Color- dark gray, almost black.
Body Shape; Manta Ray shaped, with no tail fins. Width; 100 feet.
Length; 80 feet. Craft has oval bubble shaped canopy on front of it.
With of canopy; 20 feet. Height of canopy; 10 to 15 feet. Color of canopy; dark jade green.

front view of craft:

top view of craft:

What appeared to be engines on what would be wings were not engines as we know them. They had conical ends on them and were also dark jade green in color. The body of what looked to be engines was dark gray, almost black as the rest of the craft.

After we had gotten under the craft I remember looking up and this hatch door slid open. Then this ladder came from within it. The ladder was clear in appearance. The being spoke to me ,mind to mind again and told me to enter the craft. I didn’t really want to but I had no control over myself. I was being controlled psychologically by the being. I grasped the ladder (And somehow I knew this craft was over 200 years old by our measurement of time) and the ladder had the exact feel of aluminum. I got to the inside and the being told me (mind to mind) to get in the left seat. I at that time was not wearing my glasses. I know this for fact. Everything was a dull silver-gray. Everything looked like it was molded in one casting. I couldn’t believe the incredible view through the canopy. Everything was crystal clear. But you could not see inside of the craft from the outside. I never in my life saw anything like it in my life. It was as if I had done this before. I looked out the canopy and saw another Manta ray shaped craft across the ways. The scripture going across the screen in front of me I have no conscious memory of but at that time it was like I could understand it.
Some of the inscriptions were like a form of hieroglyphics. After the being ordered me to start the craft I realized that I was in the pilot seat and it was in the navigator/weapons seat. I had no control over my mind, my actions but was compelled to do as the being commanded. After getting the craft started (which is detailed in my testimonial story) I remember going through this valley and a rocky cliff was jutting out the side of the mountain on the right. The desert land below was mainly a reddish brown but light in color. no vegetation could be seen there. I remember turning the pearl colored oval shaped handles to the front and the terrain below became a blur.

The craft gained speed very quickly and I felt no G-force (Mass Avoidance). I knew that I would be involved in a conflict that no one I knew of knew it existence.

It was known as the great war of Beta Elipson. (You have to remember that these events came back to me as nightmares and flash backs, by the means of time released regression recall.) By mind to mind the being explained to me about the creature I saw on the table that was dead. The being explained to me that those creatures were of a murderous race. Then we came to it, What I call the hive because it looked like a gigantic bee hive with pillars that had flat tops with chrome spheres on them. The craft beside us (the same type of craft) blew up into a huge fire ball. They were killed.

The being told me mind to mind a command, Mirror image on. Mirror image is the craft is able to produce a hologram of what’s around it making it invisible to the eye. The being mind to mind told me to turn away, that it had fired. After turning away and accelerating to a very great speed. What I call the hive blew up with a massive explosion that shook the craft we were in.
At that time I knew that my friend from the base were I was stationed was killed in the Manta Ray U.F.O. that had blew up. I knew it in my mind, I knew it in my heart.

After a while the being told me to head for the setting star. Little did I know that we were heading to where a massacre occurred. The worst sight I ever saw, After we got to a desolated area where you could see a structure in a very large crater area. Near the entrance you could see seven mutilated bodies, very mutilated.

One was like the insect like creature that I saw on the table. half of its face appeared to have been chewed off. The others were more like human like by physical features. Except they had larger heads and larger eyes. They were dead. some had holes through them a few were mutilated. The smell was horrible. As I remember to this very day I and the being went into this stone structure. It was there I thought I saw going to die. This Creature that looked exactly like the insect one but much taller came in the structure and looked me dead in the eyes as it went to the back of the structure. The being I was with started killing it with a weapon I know I never knew existed. The screams that thing made still haunt me to this day. After it was killed we left the structure and returned to the manta ray shaped craft.

I will always remember standing halfway up that clear ladder looking at those dead mutilated bodies . That was the most horrid sight I ever witnessed and will never forget it. The being commanded me to get in the craft and we left that area. The next thing I remember was that We had come to this populated area. There was a very huge structure that had large doors. The structure had like a light jade color to the stone structure to it and they were transparent. After exiting the craft the being and I got on this sidewalk that was amber in color and it moved toward the structure. This thing went over a causeway that was underneath it and I saw the others down below. It was it this structure that I met the 13 other people and I remember very vividly two of them were staring at me. The heavy set man looked like a sales man and the thinner woman who had light color hair are the two faces I remember mostly.

It was there that we received a condolence for the death of my friend who died and it was there where we were given the reason on why we were chosen. I and the 13 others received a warning to take back with us and deliver to our own planet. We were returned to where we’d been picked up at unharmed. Ever since then I have suffered from night blindness and have become progressively ill. Possible radiation poisoning.

I don’t know what it really is.

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EXISTENCE OF ET’s UFO’s HAS BEEN PROVEN. ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread284226/pg1

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SCIENTIFICALLY EARTH COULD BE AT CENTER OF UNIVERSE

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread312344/pg1

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WOULD OUR LEADERS TELL US OF IMPENDING CATACLYSM?

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread319009/pg1

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424 posted on 12/04/2007 3:32:41 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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