So he has *evidence* that every unidentified object, that every pilot, engineer, military personnel, cop etc has ever seen, and continue to see is in reality secret military aircraft?
Do you have *evidence* that they were seeing alien crafts?
And I said no, I don't. And I never claimed they were.
Nor do you have evidence supporting what you stated that every single incident or observation made by credible individuals was/is swamp gas, optical illusions, secret military aircraft, misinterpretations, etc.
I would honestly like to know, what do you think they are?
I have no idea, as I stated previously. I will say I too have seen objects that I cannot identify. Not suggesting they were aliens, or alien craft, but it could have been.
I tend to look beyond this planet. I've been imaging planetary and deep space objects for some years, using the latest computer controlled optical telescopes and rather high end, extreme light sensitive digital cameras. Yes, I consider myself an experienced, trained observer.
Example...Two weeks ago I imaged M-15 globular star cluster, below. It's about 34,000 light years distance. Not too far astronomically speaking. It contains pulsars, and neutron stars. Very neat stuff.
You can believe me or not, but I've seen objects, outside and close to our moon orbit, that I cannot explain. Could they have been craft not produced or developed here on earth? I don't know. What I do know is that we have very few spacecraft outside our moon orbit, and those would not be visible anyway...Not with my equipment anyway. lol
You have your beliefs, as I have mine.
You have your beliefs, as I have mine.I do not believe in anything for which there is no evidence. While there is evidence that many UFO sightings are the result of misinterpretations of earthly phenomena, there is no evidence of alien spacecraft. Therefore, I go with the more likely explanation.
Do you believe the Drake equation holds scientific value?
I’ve been msg’d more this thread than usual about
WHY CAN’T WE HAVE A SANE, SAFE PLACE TO DISCUSS THIS TOPIC without all the idiot uninformed naysayers throwing so much nastiness, orneriness etc. into the works such that good folks leave disgusted?
I don’t really know.
It is possible, when discussing the religious aspects of it to have a caucus thread in the rel forum for the Pentecostal/Charismatics to look at it from their perspective. That might be one way—but a caucus thread is for absolutely no contentiousness etc. I don’t know if even all of us who believe in the reality of UFO’s could meet that standard.
Certainly folks are welcome to ask JimRob directly for such a protected or at least more fairly moderated forum on the topic. But I wouldn’t expect a lot of sympathy—though I could be wrong. It’s been a while.
Anyway—those who would like to discuss the topic in peace could also just email all communications to the whole list of those wanting to do such.
IF FOLKS WNAT TO TRY THAT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.