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Statue salutes Polish man who warned FDR of Nazi camps
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Posted on 11/12/2007 2:57:21 PM PST by lizol
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Admirer pats hand of Jan Karski statue at its unveiling in front of Polish Consulate Sunday.
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posted on
11/12/2007 2:57:23 PM PST
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lizol
To: lizol

Jan Karski, 1944.
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posted on
11/12/2007 2:58:33 PM PST
by
lizol
(Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
To: lizol
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posted on
11/12/2007 2:59:03 PM PST
by
lizol
(Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
To: lizol
Kinda reminds you that Bill F’ng Clinton is everywhere. Just as during his administration he was on TV at the drop of a a hat. There is a very long list of reasons not to elect Hillary Clinton to national office - that’s just one of them.
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posted on
11/12/2007 3:01:46 PM PST
by
Wally_Kalbacken
(Seldom right but never in doubt)
To: Nightshift
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11/12/2007 3:02:45 PM PST
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tutstar
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To: lizol
A shame that will haunt Eden, FDR and other Western leaders throughout eternity: that they knew explicitly about the Holocaust, yet did not even publically acknowledge it.
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posted on
11/12/2007 3:04:54 PM PST
by
txzman
(Jer 23:29)
To: lizol
"He tried desperately to save the Jews in Europe, and, unfortunately, FDR didn't listen," said Koch. That's complete and utter garbage, Mayor Koch. Karski was a hero, but the US did an enormous amount to rescue the Jews and the Karski report was extremely influential. This is revisionist nonsense.
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posted on
11/12/2007 3:05:28 PM PST
by
Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: lizol
I’m a day late but I’d still like to say...
Happy Independence Day, Poland!
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posted on
11/12/2007 3:06:55 PM PST
by
Grimmy
(equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
To: txzman
A shame that will haunt Eden, FDR and other Western leaders throughout eternity: that they knew explicitly about the Holocaust, yet did not even publically acknowledge it.I'm not sure what your point is. The Allies put the Germans responsible for the Holocaust on public trial -- televised around the world -- for War Crimes, Crimes Against Humanity, etc.
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posted on
11/12/2007 3:07:19 PM PST
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Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: lizol
Karski, a Catholic member of the Polish Underground, repeatedly risked his life and was imprisoned and tortured as he tried to inform the world about the Jewish genocide occurring in the Nazi concentration camps. I wonder how he felt when revisionists began trying to blame the holocaust on his religion.
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11/12/2007 3:12:51 PM PST
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Hacksaw
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posted on
11/12/2007 3:15:53 PM PST
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lizol
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To: Alouette; SJackson
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posted on
11/12/2007 3:16:40 PM PST
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lizol
(Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
To: lizol
Thanks for posting. Talk about a story that needs to be a movie.
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posted on
11/12/2007 3:20:04 PM PST
by
tanuki
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To: txzman
The USA was kind of busy preparing for the world’s largest invasion, by way of Normandy France to save ALL of Europe.
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posted on
11/12/2007 3:25:03 PM PST
by
Deguello
To: lizol
” “He tried desperately to save the Jews in Europe, and, unfortunately,
FDR didn’t listen,” said Koch. “
It’s refreshing to hear a Democratic politician that does occassionally
speak the historical truth.
But, that’s not the whole story. Damaging the rail lines to the camps
would have been a very temporary fix because the Germans had a huge
“army” of slave labor to get bombed lines up and running in a couple of
hours or at most a day or so. And trying to take down a rail bridge was
no mean feat until the development of the “earthquake” bombs by the
Brits and controllable bombs used by the Americans in the later stages
of the war in the Pacific.
But...I think one of the major reasons little was done during the war
was mental: FDR, Churchill, Bomber Harris and Spaatz couldn’t wrap
their brains around the concept that slave laborers would be giddy with
joy as bombs rained down on their camps, even killing substantial numbers
of the inmates. (Yet that is what I’ve some work-camp survivor say
had happened while they were in those hell-camps; one of them was
at the V-2 factory at Nordhausen [sp?])
“It was sad because we’re reflecting on the deaths of about 6 million Jews,
and joyous because we’re reflecting on the glory of a hero.”
Well, the fellow sure deserved as much or more respect/publicity
than Oskar Schindler.
But Hollyweird is a fickle beast...and I won’t expect them to do
a good bio-pic on Karski.
More’s the pity.
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posted on
11/12/2007 3:27:06 PM PST
by
VOA
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To: VOA
You're absolutely right. This is one of the great historical myths. Whether they should have bombed Auschwitz or not (and I tend to believe they shouldn't have) the United States Government, working with the full advice and complete support of the American Jewish Committee, the World Jewish Congress and other organizations, decided that bombing Auschwitz would be a bad idea and that the best way to save the greatest number of Jews was to defeat the Nazis just as quickly as possible.
As for "not listening," FDR immediately set up the War Refugee Board, a top level independent government agency that existed for the sole purpose of rescuing Jews from occupied Europe. Given that the US was then at war with the Nazis, rescuing anybody from behind enemy lines was rather difficult. Nevertheless, the WRB saved tens of thousands of lives despite extremely trying circumstances.
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posted on
11/12/2007 3:39:30 PM PST
by
Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: Deguello
The USA was kind of busy preparing for the worlds largest invasion, by way of Normandy France to save ALL of Europe. You should know that the decision to focus on defeating the German Army was endorsed by virtually the entire American Jewish community at the time. Koch is being a revisionist.
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posted on
11/12/2007 3:41:32 PM PST
by
Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: lizol
Jan Karski was one of my professors at Georgetown in the 1970s. He was quite striking and engaging.
Hard to believe, but among his WWII exploits were breaking INTO a concentration camp in order to see firsthand what was going on, and then breaking out again and travelling to London to report.
There’s a statue of him now on the Georgetown campus. God bless his spirit.
To: Clemenza; firebrand; Coleus; neverdem
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posted on
11/12/2007 6:46:12 PM PST
by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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