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Cosmic ray mystery solved?
Eurekalert | University of Utah ^ | 11/8/07

Posted on 11/12/2007 1:12:47 PM PST by LibWhacker

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The single subatomic particle would feel like a fast-pitched baseball if it could penetrate the atmosphere and hit a person in the head.

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1 posted on 11/12/2007 1:12:47 PM PST by LibWhacker
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Galaxies on steroids?................


2 posted on 11/12/2007 1:15:06 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: LibWhacker

cosmic rays cause global warming bump.


3 posted on 11/12/2007 1:15:43 PM PST by steel_resolve (Liberals, Dems, anarchists and traitors - get used to Americans getting in your face from hereon out)
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/07/020731080631.htm


4 posted on 11/12/2007 1:16:48 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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Cosmic rays blamed for global warming


5 posted on 11/12/2007 1:17:28 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/11/warm11.xml


6 posted on 11/12/2007 1:17:49 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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Black holes are collapsed stars with gravity so strong that nothing – not even light – can escape once it has fallen past the black hole’s “event horizon.” Scientists believe most galaxies, including ours, host supermassive black holes, which contain the mass of up to a few billion stars like our sun.

When matter is sucked into supermassive black holes, the process also spews out various particles and electromagnetic radiation, from gamma and X-rays to ultraviolet, visible and infrared light, and radio waves.

Does anyone else see a primitive flaw in this theory? If "nothing - not even light" can escape, how then does the radiation escape? I am too simple to understand.

7 posted on 11/12/2007 1:24:21 PM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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...I thought so...


8 posted on 11/12/2007 1:30:28 PM PST by deathrace2000 ("I regret that I have but one life to give for my country", Nathan Hale before execution.)
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The single subatomic particle would feel like a fast-pitched baseball if it could penetrate the atmosphere and hit a person in the head.

Google calculation for velocity = 56.8501852 mph.

That won't get you even into single-A baseball as a pitcher.

Also, it would probably zip right through you and not lose much energy at all.

9 posted on 11/12/2007 1:33:11 PM PST by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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Also, it would probably zip right through you and not lose much energy at all.

Kind of like the burrito I had for lunch yesterday.

10 posted on 11/12/2007 1:37:43 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (Free commerce is the only just way to redistribute wealth.)
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Bad writing. As matter crosses the event horizon it is torn apart and some of it escapes...in other words the particles that escape never actually made it into the black hole.


11 posted on 11/12/2007 1:37:46 PM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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“how then does the radiation escape?”

The radiation comes from the accretion disk or jet, if it has a jet. Magnetic fields then accelerate the particles. The disk is outside the event horizon. I think, but am not too clear, that particles can slingshot close to the EH and pick up lots of energy, like we do with space probes slingshotting Venus to get to Jupiter.

More particles come from the event horizon itself as virtual pairs are made from the vacuum fluctuations- normally these appear and disappear, but at the EH, one particle gets trapped and the other is freed.

12 posted on 11/12/2007 1:39:53 PM PST by DBrow
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And now calculate the velocity of a single iron nucleus at that energy!


13 posted on 11/12/2007 1:41:17 PM PST by DBrow
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If "nothing - not even light" can escape, how then does the radiation escape?

The radiation does not "escape". It is generated by the acceleration of matter and energy as it spins closers and closer to the event horizon.

14 posted on 11/12/2007 1:41:19 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (Free commerce is the only just way to redistribute wealth.)
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like a fastball to the head.. This explains a few folks walking around these days.. they got hit in the head by something,, a few rays must make it thru , I reckun


15 posted on 11/12/2007 1:41:21 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: 6ppc

This is the Hawking Paradox, no?


16 posted on 11/12/2007 1:46:47 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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You're right, once something falls beyond the event horizon, it can't get out. It's gone past the point of no return.

BUT... before it gets to that point, it can get thrown out and away from the black hole, if it's given a shot of energy that's great enough. There are few places, if any, in the universe more violent than the inner accretion disk of a supermassive black hole!

17 posted on 11/12/2007 1:49:00 PM PST by LibWhacker (Democrats are phony Americans)
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how then does the radiation escape

That comes from material that is being sucked into the black hole but has not yet entered the black hole.

18 posted on 11/12/2007 1:52:18 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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Does anyone else see a primitive flaw in this theory? If "nothing - not even light" can escape, how then does the radiation escape? I am too simple to understand.

The energy comes from material falling into the black hole before it reaches the event horizon. Basically, a ton of stuff bashes together as it falls into the black hole, releasing a huge amount of energy on the way in. At least that accounts for the massive X-rays from black holes. Cosmic rays are MUCH more energetic, and the scientists don't understand (yet) how they get that much energy.

Actually, a newer theory says that nothing ever actually crosses the event horizon due to time dialation caused by the massive gravitational forces. Maybe there is some connection? Time dialation affecting the release of energy? Dunno, but sure MUCH smarter minds than mine are working on that angle.

19 posted on 11/12/2007 1:53:26 PM PST by piytar
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To: DBrow
Don;t forget the Hawking Radiation which is a quantum mechanical effect
20 posted on 11/12/2007 1:57:02 PM PST by Reily
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