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Giuliani's Hold on Lead Spot Is Eroding (Kerik, Reputed Mob Ties Hurting Him, Just As Predicted)
The New York Sun ^ | 11/12/2007 | Russell Berman

Posted on 11/12/2007 2:45:44 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

WASHINGTON — Mayor Giuliani's hold on the front-runner's perch in the Republican presidential nomination is eroding, with two new polls showing that Mitt Romney is opening up a widening lead in New Hampshire, site of the first primary.

While Mr. Giuliani has maintained his lead in national polls and in several state surveys, the former Massachusetts governor is now comfortably ahead in both Iowa and New Hampshire, two hotly contested early-voting states that have traditionally played a crucial role in determining the Republican nominee.

Mr. Romney opened up a 12-point lead over Mr. Giuliani in New Hampshire, 32% to 20%, in a Boston Globe/University of New Hampshire poll released yesterday. He leads in the state by 11 points in the latest Marist College poll, also released yesterday. Senator McCain of Arizona, who in an appearance yesterday on "Fox News Sunday" guaranteed a Granite State victory, is running third in both surveys.

The polls indicate that Mr. Romney has solidified his advantage and perhaps shifted the dynamic of the Republican race, after several surveys in September suggested Mr. Giuliani had closed the gap in New Hampshire. Mr. Romney has held a consistent double-digit lead since the summer in Iowa, where voters will cast the first presidential ballots in a caucus on January 3.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2008; bernardkerik; corruption; election2008; elections; giuliani; kerik; mitt; mittromney; newhampshire; romney; rudy; rudygiuliani
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Fredo Giuliani: It ain't the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect! ...


21 posted on 11/12/2007 4:07:30 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Vaquero
Fredo Giuliani: It ain't the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect! ...

Some talented and enterprising FReeper with a knack for PhotoShop (i.e., anyone other than myself) SO needs to do something with either Giuliani or Kerik and one of the Godfather movie posters. ;)

22 posted on 11/12/2007 4:09:46 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Hasn’t Romney always been the lead in Iowa? If Guiliani begins losing traction in other states than I will be thrilled. Until then this is interesting but not great news yet.


23 posted on 11/12/2007 4:14:33 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
Buzzkill. ;)
24 posted on 11/12/2007 4:16:14 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: calcowgirl

Forgot to PING you to this. (Sorry!) ;)


25 posted on 11/12/2007 4:21:07 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Great way to start the day. Got this article about Rudy’s dive, and another on Hillary’s campaign in trouble. The two jolts of good news are better than two cups of coffee to wake me up.


26 posted on 11/12/2007 4:32:28 AM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: JCEccles

They will all run into a wall called FRED in south carolina.


27 posted on 11/12/2007 4:36:20 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; TitansAFC
The bad news for Giuliani just never ends. Yesterday's headlines shouted:

Big Week in CA for Romney; Picks Up Endorsements from YRFC and CRA

FReeper redgirlinabluestate posted that these are the most conservative groups in California. The California Republican Assembly helped get Reagan elected Governor in 1966. The group claims much of the responsibility for the "Reagan Revolution". Ronald Reagan often referred to CRA as the "Conscience of the Republican Party."

And just wait until Californians learn their police chief, William Bratton, Endorses NY Gov Spitzer's suicidal urge to license illegals, and that Giuliani wants Bratton as Homeland/Security/Sec

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BACKSTORY William J. Bratton, former NYC police commissioner under Mayor Giuliani endorsed Gov Spitzer's plan to license illegals.

EXCERPT LA Police Chief Bratton was NYC police commissioner from 1994-96, during the first term of Mayor Giuliani, but the two men famously feuded, with Giuliani resentful that Mr. Bratton — a pioneer of the city’s Compstat program — was getting credit for the city’s reduction in crime.

In March 2007, Giuliani began trying to mend fences with Bratton and met privately; afterward, Mr. Bratton said he “enjoyed” the tête-à-tête. In May 2007, the two men met in Los Angeles.

In a statement released October 2007 by Gov Spitzer’s office, Chief Bratton said: As former Commissioner of the New York City Police Department and now Chief of the Los Angeles Police Department (since 2002), I support efforts that have the potential to solve crimes and improve traffic safety. That’s why I backed legislation in California that would give undocumented immigrants the ability to get a driver’s license once they have provided proof of their identification. It is my belief that by doing that you would reduce the number of hit and runs and increase the number of insured motorists on the road. We would also now have undocumented immigrants’ identifying information on record such as photographs and addresses which could prove helpful in the fight against crime and terrorism.

QUOTE SOURCE http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/bratton-endorses-spitzer-drivers-license-plan/

NOTE Licensing illegals hit a roadblock when it was determined some 80% of Americans oppose the plan. Spitzer was forced to backoff when the plan contributed to a debate fumble by Hillary Clinton followed by dismal approval ratings.

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RUDY: I'D TAP MY OLD FOE BRATTON
By DAVID K. LI, NY POST
August 13, 2007

EXCERPT GOP presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani floated an extraordinary olive branch to bitter rival William Bratton, hinting he'd consider his estranged former top cop for a high federal post.

In an interview in this week's New Yorker magazine, Giuliani was asked whom he'd tap for Homeland Security secretary if elected to the White House. He laughed and told the magazine whom he wouldn't tap. ".....you need a Bernie Kerik without the background problems that Bernie Kerik had," Giuliani said of his ethics-challenged former police commissioner and close friend.

The former mayor lavished praise on his first police commissioner, Bratton, the city's top cop from 1994-96..... Giuliani is largely blamed for forcing Bratton, now LA police chief, out of office in an ugly battle of egos. "But you sort of look back on some of the things and say that was an extraordinarily productive relationship," Giuliani told the magazine. Now that I look back on it, I really appreciate the (Bratton) relationship."

It's certain that Giuliani won't be tapping Kerik for any job in his potential Cabinet. Kerik, NY's top cop from 2000 to 2001 and a close friend of Giuliani's, was briefly nominated for Homeland Security's top post by President Bush. Kerik withdrew, claiming his employment of an illegal nanny would make his confirmation too difficult. It soon emerged that Kerik had a flood of ethics allegations that were much more serious.

BEST OF ENEMIES Giuliani and William Bratton at a press conference in 1996 announcing Bratton's resignation as police commissioner.

28 posted on 11/12/2007 4:37:55 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

just as long as it isn’t Fred Thompson


29 posted on 11/12/2007 4:40:54 AM PST by jern
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I wasn’t voting for Giuliani anyway (I disagree with him on too many issues)... so mob ties just enforced that decision.


30 posted on 11/12/2007 4:41:49 AM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Fredo Giuliani: It ain't the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect! ...

31 posted on 11/12/2007 5:12:24 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Vaquero; Jim Robinson
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! Jim... you gotta see this! ;)
32 posted on 11/12/2007 5:16:47 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: JCEccles

Guiliani needs to make it past the first 5 or 6 primaries. After that all the polls in all the states have had him leading. Current state polling and winner take all states gives him the nomination by the end of March.

The danger to rudy of Romney taking all 5 or 6 of the first 5 or 6 — and that is really possible — is that it could cause a tsunami overthrowing Rudi’s lead in those states to follow.

Based on current state primaries, Romney has the best chance to displace Rudy.

He is not my favorite, by a long shot, but we cannot tolerate a mobster in the White House. Rudy’s dad spent time in the Federal Pen for being a Mafia hit man. His uncle was even higher up. The Mob reportedly voted in favor of NOT going after Rudy.

Now there’s this thread yesterday that has Rudy saying nice things about Scotus Justice Ginsberg’s qualifications.

Rudy should not be the nominee, because his positions, skeletons, personal cruelties, and inexperience render him unelectable. Hillary is praying that Rudy be her opponent.


33 posted on 11/12/2007 5:34:30 AM PST by xzins (If you'll just agree to the murdering of your children we can win the presidency!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

What a relief. Rudy may have an entertaining personality but the thought of him as US President was frightening.


34 posted on 11/12/2007 6:01:54 AM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: xzins

I’m a Fred supporter, but right now I think Romney wins Iowa, NH. This propels him to a win in South Carolina. Rudy’s support collapses in Florida and California, and Romney is the nominee.


35 posted on 11/12/2007 6:05:49 AM PST by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: mainerforglobalwarming

To win, Romney needs a homerun BEFORE Super Tuesday. If Giulani makes it to super-Tuesday untouched, then he won’t be stopped....until the actual election.

His skeletons are so bad that he cannot possibly win....even against Hillary.

Can you imagine how warped it will be having Hillary able to nail her opponent for his infidelity. She’ll get to play “Stand by your man” while Rudy has to sing, “My Cheatin’ Heart.”


36 posted on 11/12/2007 6:11:00 AM PST by xzins (If you'll just agree to the murdering of your children we can win the presidency!)
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To: xzins

My hope is that Rudy’s support is not rock solid, that his current supporters will abandon him as he loses the early races.


37 posted on 11/12/2007 6:14:33 AM PST by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: mainerforglobalwarming

I think they are not rock solid. I think they’ve just been brainwashed by the enormous media barrage in his favor up to this point.

Chinks are now appearing in the armor. While I would prefer it be Hunter or Thompson to take him down, I will be grateful for anyone to do it. Rudy is a radical liberal. Romney is from rockefellar-republican roots, but his conversion in terms of social conservative issues is real politik on his part. Like Pres. Bush, another from an elite republican family, Romney’s realist enough to know that he can’t make it, and especially for 2 terms, without play 50/50 with the conservative republicans.

The danger will always be splitting the conservative vote so many ways that Rudy stays at the top or that we have a brokered convention.


38 posted on 11/12/2007 6:20:03 AM PST by xzins (If you'll just agree to the murdering of your children we can win the presidency!)
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To: Coldwater Creek

That’s not true at all. I’m voting for Duncan Hunter in the primary and would consider voting for Huckabee if Hunter was no longer running. If Rudy wins the primary, I will most enthusiastically vote for him in the general election. That enthusiasm would merely be a bit stronger if Huckabee was VP.


39 posted on 11/12/2007 6:22:28 AM PST by twigs
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To: Liz

Same BS lie, different morning. Nice work.


40 posted on 11/12/2007 6:22:54 AM PST by jonathanmo (So many phobes, so little time...)
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