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1 posted on 11/11/2007 7:20:26 PM PST by Westlander
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Jane Harman isn't exactly the brightest bulb in the drawer

82 posted on 11/11/2007 8:11:36 PM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: Westlander

Those will look beautiful in my chandelier - not.


86 posted on 11/11/2007 8:13:51 PM PST by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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I HATE florescent light bulbs! I will not have them in my home!
89 posted on 11/11/2007 8:15:04 PM PST by AmericaUnite
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Let us not light an incandescent lamp rather than curse the darkness. Let us instead revel in darkness and forbid that accursed illumination like the people of that worker’s paradise, North Korea.


91 posted on 11/11/2007 8:17:06 PM PST by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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To: Westlander

And as Rush has said, we turn the lights on in the dark when it’s colder out. Why not get rid of life? It has been known to create generate heat.


92 posted on 11/11/2007 8:17:32 PM PST by AmericaUnite
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When incandescent bulbs are outlawed... only I will have incandescent light bulbs ;-).


119 posted on 11/11/2007 9:04:28 PM PST by Xenophon450 (They say it's lonely at the top, then I am as lonely as can be.)
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To: Westlander

I have a flourescent light outside my front door just as a test. It takes about 5 minutes for it to get to full light right now and it’s barely reached zero. It will be interesting to see how it acts when the temp. drops.


121 posted on 11/11/2007 9:09:44 PM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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The heat is not wasted here for more than six months out of the year. GO figure. Some nit from a warmer climate proposes doing away with a what is a useful by-product for someone who lives elsewhere.

Interesting the shape of the new bulbs resembles a screw.

130 posted on 11/11/2007 9:25:41 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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While I use CFLs in most locations of the house, I really think Ms. Harman is out to lunch...

After all, her husband - Sidney Harman, founder of Harman Industries (Harman Kardon, Infinity, JBL, Proceed, Revel, and a bunch of other audio brands) - made his fortune on tube amps (about 5% efficient). And his speakers are - at best - 2% efficient (usually 0.2-0.5%).

If we want to save some electricity, how about Jane turn to her husband and enforce Harman simply doubling the efficiency of all their stereo equipment?


131 posted on 11/11/2007 9:28:05 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Tagline: Kinda like a chorus line but without the legs)
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How many bureaucrats does it take to change a light bulb?


132 posted on 11/11/2007 9:29:24 PM PST by dfwgator
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One warning, while the tubes don't generate much heat the ballast in the base does. If put into an enclosed fixture they can generate enough heat to cook the socket and make it brittle or worse case cause a small fire. Even enclosed fixtures rated for CFL's will cook. We are finding this out at work when we have to replace sockets because they cracked due to heat in fixtures designed for CFL's.. This is with the pin type CFL.

The answer is to have fixtures with the ballast in them instead of the bulb, like standard fluorescent fixtures. The ballast can be beefier and cooled better and all you need to replace is the bulb and not a bulb and ballast every time one burns out. The downside is new fixtures will need installed and they are more expensive although this will make the bulbs cheaper.

Another thing to consider is Power Factor. See this:

Power Factor

133 posted on 11/11/2007 9:29:40 PM PST by this_ol_patriot (I saw manbearpig and all I got was this lousy tagline.)
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To: Westlander

when Al and Tipper start using the fluorescent bulbs in the lamps by their bed and in their dining room chandelier, I’ll begin to think about using them.


138 posted on 11/11/2007 9:33:11 PM PST by Eva
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I’ve been switching each time an incandescent bulb burns out. The CFL’s work fine. I bought one that had a harsh light but that was my mistake in not reading the label carefully. With that one exception, I can’t tell a difference in light quality. The big plus for me is that I’ve been able to step up the lumens in a number of places.


140 posted on 11/11/2007 9:37:25 PM PST by sphinx
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Harman can shove it, as Tereza Heinz would say.


197 posted on 11/12/2007 2:04:29 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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I’m generally very happy with CFL lamps. I have had only one go bad, and that was one that runs 24/7 as a night light. It’s replacement now has about 6000 hours on it. My only complaints are that some of them produce annoying RF interference, and there are clearance problems in some older lamps.


199 posted on 11/12/2007 2:56:41 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Scrape the bottom, vote for Rodham!)
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Politicians are stupid. These bulbs don’t work in refrigerators or stoves. There are no “night light” compact fluorescent bulbs. They don’t fit in all old fixtures.
The cost of disposal is conveniently passed over, but we all know that the politicians will sooner or later have to impose a disposal tax.
I take it back. Politicians are not stupid. They are fascists.


234 posted on 11/12/2007 6:05:41 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Westlander; The Iceman Cometh; Suzy Quzy; Peter W. Kessler; longtermmemmory; ansel12; Brucifer; ...

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/02/led_bulb_replac.php

235 posted on 11/12/2007 6:07:06 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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The incandescent bulb will be killed by “free trade” and globalist corruption.


246 posted on 11/12/2007 6:29:57 AM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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I would much rather see legislation to BAN DEMOCRATS.


267 posted on 11/12/2007 6:58:49 AM PST by reg45
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So soon this curly french fry thing will appear over a comic strip character that has an idea?


272 posted on 11/12/2007 7:10:11 AM PST by A knight without armor
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