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Incandescent bulb’s future dims
MSN ^ | 11-11-2007 | MSN

Posted on 11/11/2007 7:20:25 PM PST by Westlander

If U.S. lawmakers have their way, the lights may soon go out on Thomas Edison's greatest invention -- the incandescent light bulb. The 19th-century inventor brought illumination to the world's fingertips, but according to Congress, his invention isn't efficient enough for an age anxious about energy supplies.

"Only 10% of the power used by today's incandescent bulbs is emitted as light, while the other 90% is released as heat," Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., said when she introduced her legislation to ban standard light bulbs.

To eliminate this waste, Harman has proposed legislation that would effectively eliminate incandescent light bulbs from store shelves nationwide as early as 2012.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: 110th; bigbrother; bulb; edison; energy; envirowhackos; ida; incandescent; janeharman; light; lightbulbnazis; lightbulbs; lightpollution; nannystate; stalinisttactics
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To: rb22982
The crucial difference is that the CFL releases that 4mg of Hg into my home if it breaks. Than makes all the difference in the world as far as I’m concerned. Given that I have two small boys, I expect bulbs broken on a regular basis. Having them potentially suck in upto 4mg of Hg every time they knock a lamp over is not acceptable.

I have CFLs where I think they are safe. But I want to make the judgment about when and where they are installed, not be dictated to by the government.
141 posted on 11/11/2007 9:38:24 PM PST by Flying Circus
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To: matthew fuller
I have posted 16,595 replies since I've been here. The CO2/Carbon Monoxide screw up isn't the biggest, it's probably not even in the top ten.

When my grand daughter lived here full time we used the same computer to post at F.R. If one of us failed to log off when we were through, it made for some down right funny posts. Especially when I mentioned my wife only to discover that I was posting from Holly_Ps account.

142 posted on 11/11/2007 9:38:38 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: rb22982

Bully for you. This article is about Democrat politicians mandating that we ALL march to that beat. No choice in light bulb. Next is toilet paper. They already demand we use low flow toilets. What next?


143 posted on 11/11/2007 9:41:19 PM PST by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: rb22982
Bulletin for you

This is NOT about light bulbs

This is about another suspension of our individual rights = another end run around Capitalism in favor of Communism - for the common good.

I've seen this mindset coming for decades - the government schools have eliminated the teaching of the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and our form of free enterprise while denigrating Capitalism as evil - and now people don't even realize they are being led, step by slow step, into Communism...

Too many people pat themselves on the back feeling not only are they smarter that the average bear but that they are so right, everyone else should be MADE to follow their superior example.

It's supposed to be a free county. If I want to keep my motion detector lights inside and the one outside that keeps me from tripping over things - that should be MY RIGHT...and all the superior people can feel even more superior, laughing at the dumb old lady

144 posted on 11/11/2007 9:42:03 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: rb22982

Immigrants send $$$ overseas too. They wire it home and then apply for government handouts because they are poor (by choice).

Want to cut off Islamic Supremacist terrorist funding? Cut off the head of the snake.

India and China will be paying every dollar that we are no longer sending to those nations. Better to get them to change their dreams of theocratic rule.


145 posted on 11/11/2007 9:43:40 PM PST by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: ReignOfError

What do you do with the heat from your oven?


146 posted on 11/11/2007 9:44:24 PM PST by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: maine-iac7
Oh my goodness! That is insane.

My neighbor’s kids’ school had a mercury spill a few weeks back. Just a little one, yet they took the shoes from 10 of their classmates and destroyed them and the CLOTHES of one of the teachers. She was sitting in her classroom in just one of those paper robes. Poor thing.

The HazMat Team came out; no one was allowed to go back in to the school for the rest of the week!

And they want us to have LIGHT BULBS in our homes with this stuff? Give me a freakin’ break! Yes, I have been known to break a light bulb or two.

Beside the fact that I hate fluorescent lighting-—my eyes get extremely red (a very attractive look), I don’t want something that is going to be such a pain in the butt to dispose of.

I am making like Nancy Reagan and JUST SAYIN’ NO!! ;^)

147 posted on 11/11/2007 9:46:30 PM PST by Shelayne (...)
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To: GOP Poet
fluorescent bulbs make us literally green. From a filmmakers persective everyone would look green on camera here on out...

It affects us on a subconcious level. We may "adjust" for the color shift and the flicker and tune out the buzz but it is there all the same. (audio/vidio) Recoding equipment will pick it up though.

But other than that it is "the same". < /s >

148 posted on 11/11/2007 9:47:55 PM PST by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: weegee
What do you do with the heat from your oven?

I cook. When did that become weird?

149 posted on 11/11/2007 9:50:39 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Shelayne
And they want us to have LIGHT BULBS in our homes with this stuff?

Yep, that awful stuff that used to be in thermometers that I and a gazillion other kids used to break and play with.

I am 62 years old now but I'm convinced that sometime in the next 40 years or so I will die.

150 posted on 11/11/2007 9:55:19 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: rb22982
Cutting back 10% on energy used of Americans immediately would drastically cut back on energy prices and send less $$ overseas.

But there are a myriad of ways to cut back on energy - an people could be educated on them - without being forced

Of course there would no new stockholders waiting impatiently for people to buy a product as there's no specific "product" involved

For example, I have an electric stove. I turn the burner off an average of 1 minute before the pan is ready to come off the stove. The residual heat finishes the job.

Now say that's done 5 x's a day - in a years time, that would save over 30 hours of electricity (1-2 weeks of cooking)- and a stove burner uses a whomping more energy per minute than a light bulb.

In the winter, when I have my wood stove going, I have a large 'tea' kettle on it, providing plenty of hot water for the days dishes and washing up, etc. Again, much more saving, electricity wise that a light bulb.

I very ofter cook once, eat twice or more. That is, While cooking, I'll double the recipe and have a second meal for another day. Two meals for the energy cost of one.

Often at night, in the winter, especially if not running the wood stove, I will burn my kerosene lamps. I like them for one thing. If I'm just watching TV, especially, I don't need bright lights. BUT the VERY hot heat coming constantly from the chimneys cuts WAY down on how often the furnace turns on. Betcha I'm saving a hellava lot more energy than many people who pride themselves because of their new bulbs...Hmmm - maybe I should demand laws be passed so that EVERYone do as I do - after all, it's not like it's still a free country

151 posted on 11/11/2007 10:01:14 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Yeah, but what about when you drop one accidentally? Doesn’t is release mercury gas?


152 posted on 11/11/2007 10:03:49 PM PST by SatinDoll
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To: Nachoman
They can have my incandescent light bulbs when they screw it from my cold dead socket

I'm with you - I'll be atlernately sitting and with the shades drawn knitting in my rocker by the light of my contraband light or out on the stoop, in my rocker again, shotgun across my lap, protecting my motion detector porch light.


153 posted on 11/11/2007 10:05:46 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: weegee
More work for less quality. I guess this is what could now be deemed the greening of the film industry . . . and well and let's not forget television. Ho hum. The divas hotties behind the cameras ain't gonna like this at all. I always like a little buzz with my art and news keeps it scratchy. (sarc)

Thank the Dims Dems. Fascism reigns.

154 posted on 11/11/2007 10:06:37 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: maine-iac7

Sign me up too :-).


155 posted on 11/11/2007 10:07:36 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Graybeard58
Before you go old pal,

Please don’t send the GOOBERMENT into our homes and force
us to use communist slave made junk.

In return I won't petition them to come into your home and
force you to eat shrimp cocktails laden with the trichlor, gallium and arsenic
the commies are dumping into your Wal-Mart food.

156 posted on 11/11/2007 10:09:00 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: BurbankKarl
GE is gonna stop making regular bulbs. I like my CFLs

I'm stocking up on the "old" bulbs - I kid you not. and I have plenty of lamps to last my lifetime - so don't have to worry about the restrictions on light fixtures coming that wont run anything over a 60 watt ...

157 posted on 11/11/2007 10:13:10 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: maine-iac7

“For example, I have an electric stove. I turn the burner off an average of 1 minute before the pan is ready to come off the stove. The residual heat finishes the job.”


Having a 100 million households cooking is inefficient, We have the technology and the transportation infrastructure available that we could prepare all of our foods at processing plants.

Food that did not need to be cooked by the individual yet supplied all the nutrition requirements, in other words a more advanced version of our present energy bars would be very efficient.

The media could promote the food and Hollywood could feature it in a popular film to make the public enthusiastic about eating it.

Better processing would also allow us to use some products in the recipes that are presently considered waste, or not currently used in food production.

Isn’t that a wonderful idea?


158 posted on 11/11/2007 10:13:31 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: this_ol_patriot

#6 & #7 is a start. More in depth searching tommorrow. Curious if the ballast heats up differently between pin type and screw in.

http://www.emtfsask.ca/pdfs/compactfluoresl.pdf


159 posted on 11/11/2007 10:19:16 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: ReignOfError
This is not a dictate of the enviro-nazis — it’s the inevitable march of progress

Well, let's see. For one thing, I can't see why the 'enviro-nazis' would be for them, there an environmental hazard - containing mercury - and all the precautions of cleaning up a hazardous waste spill if one is broken...not to mention the dispoable process...in glass jars with rubber seals, etc, etc (But no problem. It 'snot like anyone EVER breaks a light bulb in their house)

That said - it may be "inevitable" - but that's for the free market to decide - not the government.

If I want, or don't want, to use the new bulbs, that's MY decision, not YOURS -

160 posted on 11/11/2007 10:20:56 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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