Post #689 there is a very good video describing why Glenn Beck called Ron Paul supporters terrorists. You seem to be missing the point.
Transcripts of the valuable point made in the video
As I told you last week, Ron Paul raised over $4 million in one day. That`s huge news. His supporters raised the cash on November the 5th to commemorate Guy Fawkes. This guy was a British terrorist who tried to overthrow the government by blowing up Parliament and killing everybody in it. Paul`s supporters called the donations, and I`m quoting, a “money bomb.”
Fawkes was caught the very last minute, some say with his hand on a torch about to light the gunpowder under Parliament.
Now, the vast majority of Paul`s supporters take this little metaphor the way it`s intended, as a rallying cry to create a dramatic political shift. It`s really not the way I would go, you know, tying my movement in with a historical terrorist attack, especially in post-9/11 America. But hey, you know, I`m a libertarian at heart. I get it. You raise money however you want, as long as you`re not blowing other people up.
But America, here`s what you need to know tonight. Ron Paul`s supporters are tapping into something that`s very real. It`s something that I`ve talked about on this program for a very long time: the rising tide of disenfranchisement in this country. And it`s coming from all sides of the political spectrum.
If that feeling of disenfranchisement leads to political discussion, then our system works perfectly. But if fringe elements take that disenfranchisement and turn it into violence, we endanger the freedoms we`re supposedly all fighting for.
David Horowitz is the author of “Indoctrination U: The Left`s War Against Academic Freedom.” And Jonathan Sandys, he is a writer and founder of Churchill`s Britain. He`s also the great-great— I`m sorry, the great- grandson of Sir Winston Churchill.
Jonathan and David, it`s good to have you here.
Jonathan, let me — let me start with you. Guy Hawkes — or Fawkes, as I understand it, he is basically an old-timey Timothy McVeigh.
JONATHAN SANDYS, FOUND, CHURCHILL`S BRITAIN: Sorry. Say that again.
BECK: That he is England`s version in the 1600s of Timothy McVeigh, except his bomb didn`t work. He`s a terrorist. Is he not?
SANDYS: Yes, yes. Yes, he was a terrorist. Very much so. He had a very clear set of views. He was a Catholic and wanted to return Britain to a Catholic realm. And he was backed by the pope in Rome to blow up the parliament, blow up James I and his government...
BECK: OK.
SANDYS: ... and overthrow — and then have a Catholic — a Catholic king reinstated.
BECK: All right. Now, one of his big things, and I think this is where it ties in today. One of his big things was he felt that nobody was listening to him, that the government wouldn`t respond.
We felt that way, and that`s why we disbanded from the — from Great Britain in the 1700s, as well, because we — we felt like the king wasn`t listening to us. Do you sense at all that this is the same kind of thing that is going on in Great Britain and in America right now?
SANDYS: Yes, this is a problem we are facing at the moment in Great Britain certainly and also in America. We have governments that are promising an awful lot of things for the voters. But they aren`t delivering on them.
But nobody is actually asking the people what do you actually want? What is it in education that you want? What is it in life that you actually want? Nobody — nobody cares.
BECK: Well, David, let me go to you. Because you are a — you were a Marxist in the `60s. You were a radical. You were a guy that was exactly the opposite of where you are now. Winston Churchill I believe said that, you know, when you grow up you get some common sense.
Is this the same kind of thing, or is this worse than what it was in the `60s with the radicals then?
DAVID HOROWITZ, AUTHOR, “INDOCTRINATION U.”: Oh, I think it`s much worse. First of all, my parents were communists, and they were part of a vast conspiracy, and it was orchestrated from Moscow and wanted America to lose the Cold War.
We have a lot of people in this country who think that we`re the enemy. And a lot of them are drawn from the ranks of the old left and the new left, the secular left. But to them has been added a — you know, a whole new constituency of Muslim radicals, of which there are many in this country on our campuses.
And then the — of Democratic Party leaders out of a very short- sighted desire for political advantage, have defected from a war that they — that they all supported and have denigrated the mission of this war and fueled the — you know, the fires of what you call disenfranchisement.
BECK: But — let me go — let me take it back the other way, though, David. It`s not just the left this time. It`s also the right. I mean, Ron Paul`s supporters are also the right, and that`s from people saying, you know what? Bush has really not told us the truth, not told the American people the truth on government spending, on the border.
And even when it comes to the war, you didn`t tell us that we are in the fight of our life. You told us to go shopping.
HOROWITZ: Well, but he did say it`s going to be a long war.
You`re right. There`s a strain of isolationism and anarchy in the American tradition which Ron Paul is tapping into. I think it`s very significant that he chose Guy Fawkes as an image.
There are plenty of, unfortunately, libertarian Web sites which are indistinguishable from the anti-American left these days. LouRockwell.com and others like that. Totally in bed with the Islamofascists and have turned against this country.